So, if you disobey a subpoena, do you get to go about your daily business without accountability?

CtC

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Yanno, this shouldn't matter. Trump is not entitled to attack our judges as biased and conspiring against him anytime he doesn't like how they rule.

Which president appointed the judge is 100% immaterial.
Oh ,Bull. Dems always appoint Judges who Legislate from the Bench.
 
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kmiller1610

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They should ignore the subpoenas until the whole house has a formal vote on the inquiry.

Every congressperson should stand up and vote, then and only then should they submit.

The reason why is simple. The House is using this "inquiry" as a one sided propaganda vehicle.

There is no downside to them or their witnesses if the other side of their arguments can't be aired.

That makes the "inquiry" invalid in therms of the spirit of the law.

Keep fighting Don.
 
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Lunchboxxy

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They should ignore the subpoenas until the whole house has a formal vote on the inquiry.

Every congressperson should stand up and vote, then and only then should they submit.

The reason why is simple. The House is using this "inquiry" as a one sided propaganda vehicle.

There is no downside to them or their witnesses if the other side of their arguments can't be aired.

That makes the "inquiry" invalid in therms of the spirit of the law.

Keep fighting Don.
That’s not how it works. The executive doesn’t get to tell the house how they operate. They already had a vote, which was a formality that was in no way required. There is absolutely nothing the house could do that would make the administration comply. And there is no circumstance where you would not defend them breaking the law.

Committees issue subpoenas all the time. A full house vote isn’t required for every house investigation. That’s not how it works.

Everything the democrats are doing is completely within the rules of the house. Those not complying are violating the law. Period.
 

kmiller1610

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That’s not how it works. The executive doesn’t get to tell the house how they operate. They already had a vote, which was a formality that was in no way required. There is absolutely nothing the house could do that would make the administration comply. And there is no circumstance where you would not defend them breaking the law.

Committees issue subpoenas all the time. A full house vote isn’t required for every house investigation. That’s not how it works.

Everything the democrats are doing is completely within the rules of the house. Those not complying are violating the law. Period.
The law? Why does the law matter in this whole charade? Do you actually think that the CIC can't withhold funding to foreign nations?
 
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That’s not how it works.
Yet that's exactly how it's working. Your personal wishes do not alter reality.
The executive doesn’t get to tell the house how they operate.
And the executive is not doing so.
They already had a vote, which was a formality that was in no way required.
Impeach or move on.
There is absolutely nothing the house could do that would make the administration comply.
You're just figuring that out?
And there is no circumstance where you would not defend them breaking the law.
Why would anyone defend the House breaking the law?
Committees issue subpoenas all the time. A full house vote isn’t required for every house investigation. That’s not how it works. Everything the democrats are doing is completely within the rules of the house. Those not complying are violating the law. Period.
And subpoenas are ignored all the time. Run it up to the SCOTUS and be prepared for another disappointment.
 
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Yanno, this shouldn't matter. Trump is not entitled to attack our judges as biased and conspiring against him anytime he doesn't like how they rule.

Which president appointed the judge is 100% immaterial.
Exactly! On top of that, Trump and his base, shills/trolls, seem to make no bones about turning the SCOTUS into something political (in their favor) when the whole idea of justice (see Lady Justice's blindfold) is for it to be impartial and to HEAR both sides of any conflict, dispute, event(s) equally and without bias, so decisions can be made on facts and fairness to all parties and within any parameters set forth by law or constitutions, which are the "law of the land" in whatever jurisdiction they cover. Trump and company seem to think if they donate to any politician's campaign, they "own" that politician and the politician owes them special favors outside of the allowable limits. He seems to think being POTUS is the same thing. If he chooses or nominates you to a position under him, he expects loyalty only to him, not to the Constitution. That's not a President who is conscious of and respects the Constitution, fairness and justice, but it describes a tyrant who wishes to control absolutely everything. Note Trump's recent claiming that he had no "impeachment team" and that he (no one else) was the "team". Good leaders know when to delegate and what and who to respect and be considerate of. Trump is not a good leader, as his boasting proclaims, he is the only one he respects and is considerate of, in spite of how "great" he calls the people he picks, until and before he then verbally, slices and dices them, for saying anything negative about him.
 
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Democrats seem to have thrown separation of powers out the window. They seem to think whatever they demand, should be obeyed, and anyone who doesn't comply with their demands should be punished.

Wake up Dems!!! I realize that you want to rule over others, as that is what tyrants do, but this is America and we have a Constitution.

So, go ahead and have your little tantrums. Have a good cry.