Socialized medicine foe goes to Canada to fix his hernia

Davocrat

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No I do completely, lil davey,


I understand you tried to claim paul was going to go to canada to take advantage of their socialized medicine, when in fact, he's paying out of pocket to go to a private specialists....

you fail on so many levels.


Tell us more how you work out...... heh heh

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^The Energizer Bunny of Stupid^
 

Blueneck

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I like Care Source. I think they truly do think of the patient's needs before greed. One of the few insurance companies that I have any respect for. Your career is pretty grueling on the body. Have you thought about working in a hospital? The role is totally different. I only work with one STNA when I am scheduled and the hospital knows that she is my preference. I trust her because we have been together since the 90's when we worked in a outpatient clinic. She was a medical assistant when we met and when I left the clinic I talked her into getting her STNA so we could be together again. She has no interest in Nursing even tho our hospital would pay every dime of her training and it would be very easy for her. She is awesome.

Another option, I would seriously consider if my hips were shot is disability. Life is too short. You mostly like would not have any problems since you are closer to retirement. Body pain sucks as we age. I know that I could not work the floor FT after my ankle doing 12 hour shifts. When I do them, my post fracture ankle swells to triple its size and I spend 2 days icing it down.
I don't have my certification (don't need it for the job I have) and there's no way I could stand on my feet all day. This job I get to sit down a lot, work at my own pace pretty much as my patient sleeps most of the time. And with the primary caregiver going away, I'm already getting treated better.

I just got to get going on the process to see if I can get surgery (if that's what I need) you got any advice on whether I can just call my GP and get her to order an xray instead of getting an appt, and racking up more bills? My boss said I should find out who takes my insurance in the area that does the surgery and call them and see if they can order one since they'll do it anyway.

This is the first time I've had actual insurance since the 80's so it's a whole new way of thinking about this stuff for me. In the past it was figuring out how to get along without or when I had the Medicaid (didn't take advantage like I should have) all I did was get glasses and then my sister got sick for 6 months and I was just working and visiting her & didn't have time to do anything else.
 

HCProf

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I don't have my certification (don't need it for the job I have) and there's no way I could stand on my feet all day. This job I get to sit down a lot, work at my own pace pretty much as my patient sleeps most of the time. And with the primary caregiver going away, I'm already getting treated better.

I just got to get going on the process to see if I can get surgery (if that's what I need) you got any advice on whether I can just call my GP and get her to order an xray instead of getting an appt, and racking up more bills? My boss said I should find out who takes my insurance in the area that does the surgery and call them and see if they can order one since they'll do it anyway.

This is the first time I've had actual insurance since the 80's so it's a whole new way of thinking about this stuff for me. In the past it was figuring out how to get along without or when I had the Medicaid (didn't take advantage like I should have) all I did was get glasses and then my sister got sick for 6 months and I was just working and visiting her & didn't have time to do anything else.
I doubt that your PCP will write an order without seeing you and getting a history of your hip. She may order a CAT scan instead or MRI. You will need to go through her. Also, she will make the referral to the surgeon and get you in sooner. You might have a HMO with your new plan and you will need a referral anyways. Your boss is talking about self referral such as a PPO. You better check or you will get the mother of all bills...going out of network. I would get this rolling tomorrow. If you do need a replacement, you have a long recovery in front of you. You might get lucky and they could treat it with PT or injections. With insurance, get to know your plan. Care Source is excellent. They will answer all of your questions, teach you about your policy and where to find information.

I hear ya about neglecting your health, when I was taking care of my Mom. I ignored a lot of symptoms. I developed stress induced diabetes during that period of time. We can't ignore our health at our age. We don't have that luxury any more. :) Use your insurance.

Does Emotional Stress Cause Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus? A Review from the European Depression in Diabetes (EDID) Research Consortium - Frans Pouwer - Discovery Medicine
 
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Mr. Davocrat,

The private hospitals do.
As much as I'd love to come on here and do my usual softshoe routine, I actually just looked up the hospital.

Private hospitals are not allowed in Ontario. But this particular "hospital" (it's an estate, looks like an 1800s mansion) was opened in 1945 and is one of 4 surviving clinics that were grandfathered in the Act and are still operating. No one would be able to open a new one, not since the 50s, but there it sits - quietly mending the hernias of the world's wealthy.
 
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Southern Dad

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This thread was created to try and paint a Republican politician in a bad light by attempting to show that he relied upon the Canadian socialized healthcare system for his medical care. It failed. The clinic that Paul is going to is outside of the Canadian health care system and Paul will be paying in cash.
 
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This thread was created to try and paint a Republican politician in a bad light by attempting to show that he relied upon the Canadian socialized healthcare system for his medical care. It failed. The clinic that Paul is going to is outside of the Canadian health care system and Paul will be paying in cash.
Which must follow with the misconception that Canada's universal healthcare means everything all inclusive. When really, it's a triage. My wife once broke a bone and had to wait 6 hrs. The times I've been to the hospital it's usually been instant, but most of those (few overall) times I wasn't conscious to know the difference.

Now, they cover all testing, diagnostics, and emergency procedures to get you home, however, there is a cost for the ambulance, and any equipment (crutches for example) is not directly covered.
Dental, vision, and non-essential procedures are done through specialists that generally require referrals, and will be private or require supplemental insurance.

Also, the assumption is that socialized healthcare is poorer quality. The reality is that the hospitals are effectively for profit, they just bill the government insurance, the insurance has controlled profit margins and doesn't decide on what it will or will not pay out on. So, hospitals in Canada are on par and sometimes superior than the American counterparts.

This system also has great costs, and because of the triage nature, non essential procedures can involve significant wait times.