States sue Trump admin to block 3D-printed guns

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Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson (D) is planning to file a multi-state lawsuit Monday to block the Trump administration from allowing criminals and terrorists to access downloadable plans for 3D-printed weapons that are untraceable and undetectable. Washington, along with six other states and the District of Columbia, argue the administration’s decision to allow the public distribution of downloadable guns unconstitutionally infringes on states’ rights to regulate firearms and violates the Administrative Procedure Act.

“I have a question for the Trump Administration: Why are you allowing dangerous criminals easy access to weapons?” Ferguson said in a statement. “These downloadable guns are unregistered and very difficult to detect, even with metal detectors, and will be available to anyone regardless of age, mental health or criminal history. If the Trump Administration won’t keep us safe, we will.”

The lawsuit will ask the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington for a temporary restraining order, both to bar the federal government from lifting export controls for these tutorials, and to prevent Defense Distributed from posting the downloadable guns online, according to Ferguson's office. As part of the settlement, Ferguson's office said the Trump administration agreed to temporarily waive export restrictions on Defense Distributed’s downloadable gun files, but said the administration must first get the concurrence of the Defense Department and give Congress a 30-day notice. “The lawsuit alleges there is no evidence either of those steps have happened, which violates the Administrative Procedure Act," Ferguson's office said in a release.

Because these plastic guns lack a serial number, they are essentially untraceable by law enforcement.

http://thehill.com/regulation/399574-states-sue-trump-administration-to-block-3d-printed-guns

Thank goodness. Because this a supremely stupid idea.

And would put police departments at a significant risk.
 
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Not really, these guns are extremely unreliable and for the amount of effort it takes to make one you'd have an easier time getting a real one.

[video=youtube;IylGx-48TUI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IylGx-48TUI[/video]
 
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Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson (D) is planning to file a multi-state lawsuit Monday to block the Trump administration from allowing criminals and terrorists to access downloadable plans for 3D-printed weapons that are untraceable and undetectable. Washington, along with six other states and the District of Columbia, argue the administration’s decision to allow the public distribution of downloadable guns unconstitutionally infringes on states’ rights to regulate firearms and violates the Administrative Procedure Act.

“I have a question for the Trump Administration: Why are you allowing dangerous criminals easy access to weapons?” Ferguson said in a statement. “These downloadable guns are unregistered and very difficult to detect, even with metal detectors, and will be available to anyone regardless of age, mental health or criminal history. If the Trump Administration won’t keep us safe, we will.”

The lawsuit will ask the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington for a temporary restraining order, both to bar the federal government from lifting export controls for these tutorials, and to prevent Defense Distributed from posting the downloadable guns online, according to Ferguson's office. As part of the settlement, Ferguson's office said the Trump administration agreed to temporarily waive export restrictions on Defense Distributed’s downloadable gun files, but said the administration must first get the concurrence of the Defense Department and give Congress a 30-day notice. “The lawsuit alleges there is no evidence either of those steps have happened, which violates the Administrative Procedure Act," Ferguson's office said in a release.

Because these plastic guns lack a serial number, they are essentially untraceable by law enforcement.

http://thehill.com/regulation/399574-states-sue-trump-administration-to-block-3d-printed-guns

Thank goodness. Because this a supremely stupid idea.

And would put police departments at a significant risk.
So these states want Trump to deny the first amendment rights of individuals?
 
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I'm sure some enterprising goon can tweak it and set up a production line to supply a blackmarket demand for disposable untraceable guns.
They could make a better one in their garage already and that's the point.

These guns kind of really suck.

Half the time they aren't even going to fire, the other half they blow up...….its a lucky bet to actually get a bullet out of one.
 

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They could make a better one in their garage already and that's the point.

These guns kind of really suck.

Half the time they aren't even going to fire, the other half they blow up...….its a lucky bet to actually get a bullet out of one.
Easy to tweak that design. for instance; wrap piano wire around the gun barrel explosion chamber... worked for CSA during the civwar which gave their cannons more range because they were able to pack in more gun powder.
 

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It seems to me that if someone has the technical knowhow and the hardware to make one of these, even once they advance to the point of practical usability, they have the ability to make a steel firearm untraceable.

The problem we have is not that we're not doing enough to protect against possible threats, it's that we have a ton of existing public safety concerns, yet everyone's afraid of addressing them for one reason or another.
 
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Easy to tweak that design. for instance; wrap piano wire around the gun barrel explosion chamber... worked for CSA during the civwar which gave their cannons more range because they were able to pack in more gun powder.
The point is why are you going to spend that effort to make a one shot gun out of plastic when you can easily and more reliably do it out of metal?


I mean if you want to get it through a detector all you need is the bullet and a nail and a spring, the outside part doesn't matter, you could make it out of ice.
 

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