The Bounce That Wasn't

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Not much changed after the second debate, and not much is likely to change after tonight's either:


The flood of opinion polls that are being published this week continues to provide a confusing picture of the presidential election. But there is one thing about them on which most people agree: President Obama does not appear to have gotten a bounce in the wake of the second presidential debate. Even the most optimistic of liberal pundits, such as the New York Times’ Nate Silver, whose “Five Thirty Eight Forecast” is still sticking with the president to win in November, concedes that it’s “hard to make the case that the polls have moved much toward Mr. Obama since Tuesday night’s debate in New York.” While he is hopeful that even a slight nudge toward the president could alter the race this late in the game, there’s little reason to believe this is the case. Nor is there any doubt that the only game-changing event in the last six weeks was Mitt Romney’s performance in the first debate in Denver. It was at that point that the polls started shifting in the Republican’s direction. Though Romney made a number of mistakes in the second debate and Obama put on a better show after a drowsy performance in Denver, the electorate was largely unmoved.

No debate bounce means it is even more unlikely that the third debate to be held on Monday in Boca Raton, Florida will move the needle much no matter what happens. Though each camp hopes for a rout for their man, Obama’s failure to gain ground after the encounter on Long Island means a bounce of any size for the president or Romney after the third debate is not in the cards. That’s bad news for Democrats who are still looking for something that will alter the direction of a campaign that has been steadily looking worse for them this month.





Complete text: No Bounce for Obama Clouds Dem Forecast « Commentary Magazine
 
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Not much changed after the second debate, and not much is likely to change after tonight's either:


The flood of opinion polls that are being published this week continues to provide a confusing picture of the presidential election. But there is one thing about them on which most people agree: President Obama does not appear to have gotten a bounce in the wake of the second presidential debate. Even the most optimistic of liberal pundits, such as the New York Times’ Nate Silver, whose “Five Thirty Eight Forecast” is still sticking with the president to win in November, concedes that it’s “hard to make the case that the polls have moved much toward Mr. Obama since Tuesday night’s debate in New York.” While he is hopeful that even a slight nudge toward the president could alter the race this late in the game, there’s little reason to believe this is the case. Nor is there any doubt that the only game-changing event in the last six weeks was Mitt Romney’s performance in the first debate in Denver. It was at that point that the polls started shifting in the Republican’s direction. Though Romney made a number of mistakes in the second debate and Obama put on a better show after a drowsy performance in Denver, the electorate was largely unmoved.

No debate bounce means it is even more unlikely that the third debate to be held on Monday in Boca Raton, Florida will move the needle much no matter what happens. Though each camp hopes for a rout for their man, Obama’s failure to gain ground after the encounter on Long Island means a bounce of any size for the president or Romney after the third debate is not in the cards. That’s bad news for Democrats who are still looking for something that will alter the direction of a campaign that has been steadily looking worse for them this month.





Complete text: No Bounce for Obama Clouds Dem Forecast « Commentary Magazine
It's like there's a rachet around the Obama campaign. There may be a block of the "undecideds" who are "officially" waiting for the final debate before they declare. It's very difficult for the Obama campaign to win those remaining votes with the mountain of lies going against them. I mean, what is going to come out in tonight's debate that will suddenly convince those so called "undecideds" that Obama was telling the truth all along about Benghazi?

What will be revealed that tells voters supporting the Arab Spring was a good idea? That supporting the Libyan and Egyptian ouster but not the Iranian revolt of 2009 is somehow consistent? What is there to be "undecided" about?

If Romney goofs, the rachet remains tight. If he performs like he did in the previous debates, the rachet further tightens around the Obama campaign.
 
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It's like there's a rachet around the Obama campaign. There may be a block of the "undecideds" who are "officially" waiting for the final debate before they declare. It's very difficult for the Obama campaign to win those remaining votes with the mountain of lies going against them. I mean, what is going to come out in tonight's debate that will suddenly convince those so called "undecideds" that Obama was telling the truth all along about Benghazi?

What will be revealed that tells voters supporting the Arab Spring was a good idea? That supporting the Libyan and Egyptian ouster but not the Iranian revolt of 2009 is somehow consistent? What is there to be "undecided" about?

If Romney goofs, the rachet remains tight. If he performs like he did in the previous debates, the rachet further tightens around the Obama campaign.
Bottom Line: The Obamarrhoids are toast.

Q.E.D.
 
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It's like there's a rachet around the Obama campaign. There may be a block of the "undecideds" who are "officially" waiting for the final debate before they declare. It's very difficult for the Obama campaign to win those remaining votes with the mountain of lies going against them. I mean, what is going to come out in tonight's debate that will suddenly convince those so called "undecideds" that Obama was telling the truth all along about Benghazi?

What will be revealed that tells voters supporting the Arab Spring was a good idea? That supporting the Libyan and Egyptian ouster but not the Iranian revolt of 2009 is somehow consistent? What is there to be "undecided" about?

If Romney goofs, the rachet remains tight. If he performs like he did in the previous debates, the rachet further tightens around the Obama campaign.
the fact that they're still undecided shows that they probably don't agree with your views, does it not?
 
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a link? a link to what? i'm putting forth an idea, based on your comments. i don't have any "link" just like you didn't in your comments i was responding to.
So you got nothing.

See how this goes? Pretty fruitless, no?
 
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So you got nothing.

See how this goes? Pretty fruitless, no?
i'm seeing how it goes when someone needs a "link" to merely respond to a post. you put forth an idea, i put forth a response. why do you need a link to something?

someone certainly has nothing here, but it ain't me.