The GOP Has Become The Soviet Party

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Catherine Rampall is a brilliant columnist that more Americans should be reading, and this editorial titled "The GOP Has Become the Soviet Party" is one of her better ones. This general topic of how the Trump Administration is displaying socialist tendencies of central planning came up in a recent discussion, so I found this to be very timely:

Catherine Rampell: The GOP has become the Soviet party

Excellent paragraph: On the macroeconomic front, leadership may be touting "deregulation" but in many ways is moving toward a more centrally planned economy, which includes the shielding of pet industries from the whims of the market or technological change. That means propping up coal plants, which fracking has made less competitive. And slapping tariffs across thousands of foreign products, to subsidize struggling domestic competitors or sometimes to protect "national security." And granting more price supports for farmers. Just as government has inserted itself into more markets, though, it has abruptly stopped functioning, holding up the processing of those farmer subsidies or tariff exemptions. It's the old Soviet model in a nutshell: promising much, interfering a lot, failing to deliver.
 

Singularity

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I don't know if the economic comparison truly fits, but it sure does in a political sense.

In the wake of multiple state GOP orgs contemplating full cancellation of the primary campaign, it's as if we find ourselves at the Third Comintern. They would rather shut down elections, take power away from their own most dedicated voters, than place Donald Trump under any kind of internal scrutiny or threat.

Even if someone like Kasich or Jeff Flake or even Mitt Romney ran only to make a point, only to force the president to adhere to party principles to be sure of keeping power, the party apparatus wants to be sure to protect him from that dread foe as well. Trump is the GOP and the GOP is Trump. There is no daylight between party and personality.
 
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I don't know if the economic comparison truly fits, but it sure does in a political sense.

In the wake of multiple state GOP orgs contemplating full cancellation of the primary campaign, it's as if we find ourselves at the Third Comintern. They would rather shut down elections, take power away from their own most dedicated voters, than place Donald Trump under any kind of internal scrutiny or threat.

Even if someone like Kasich or Jeff Flake or even Mitt Romney ran only to make a point, only to force the president to adhere to party principles to be sure of keeping power, the party apparatus wants to be sure to protect him from that dread foe as well. Trump is the GOP and the GOP is Trump. There is no daylight between party and personality.
Yeah. Combine centralized planning with a personality cult, and it starts to get creepy, like the Kim Dynasty in North Korea.

If Donald Trump starts demanding they put up a big picture of him in every classroom in America, I'm outta here.
 
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Wow, insanity again. Truly insane and anyone buying into this is a true TDS Fueled© crazy.

We have all the Dims potential candidates talking nothing but class hatred, class warfare, 70% and higher marginal tax rates, free college, free this, free that, etc., etc. That is reality.
On the macroeconomic front, leadership may be touting "deregulation" but in many ways is moving toward a more centrally planned economy, which includes the shielding of pet industries from the whims of the market or technological change. That means propping up coal plants, which fracking has made less competitive. And slapping tariffs across thousands of foreign products, to subsidize struggling domestic competitors or sometimes to protect "national security." And granting more price supports for farmers. Just as government has inserted itself into more markets, though, it has abruptly stopped functioning, holding up the processing of those farmer subsidies or tariff exemptions. It's the old Soviet model in a nutshell: promising much, interfering a lot, failing to deliver.

If you can't actually REPLY to that, in any coherent way, why not just admit it, confess it, and move on?
 
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Wow, insanity again. Truly insane and anyone buying into this is a true TDS Fueled© crazy.

We have all the Dims potential candidates talking nothing but class hatred, class warfare, 70% and higher marginal tax rates, free college, free this, free that, etc., etc. That is reality.
If we send those who qualify to college, they are better prepared to make a positive contribution to the rest of us, not to mention, care for themselves and their families.

conservatives want the benefit while taking no responsibility for the cost.
 
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If we send those who qualify to college, they are better prepared to make a positive contribution to the rest of us, not to mention, care for themselves and their families.

conservatives want the benefit while taking no responsibility for the cost.
Back when we had the GI Bill after World War II, the Republicans of that time mostly understood this.

But again, that was a different 'breed' of Republicans.
 

HayJenn

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I don't know if the economic comparison truly fits, but it sure does in a political sense.

In the wake of multiple state GOP orgs contemplating full cancellation of the primary campaign, it's as if we find ourselves at the Third Comintern. They would rather shut down elections, take power away from their own most dedicated voters, than place Donald Trump under any kind of internal scrutiny or threat.

Even if someone like Kasich or Jeff Flake or even Mitt Romney ran only to make a point, only to force the president to adhere to party principles to be sure of keeping power, the party apparatus wants to be sure to protect him from that dread foe as well. Trump is the GOP and the GOP is Trump. There is no daylight between party and personality.
Yeah, that is just crazy. I cannot think of more "undemocratic" thing to do.

You have to wonder about how conservatives who do not support Trump feel about this.

I would imagine pretty pissed off and ready to leave the Trump Party. Because that is what it is. The real GOP has died.
 
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HayJenn

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Back when we had the GI Bill after World War II, the Republicans of that time mostly understood this.

But again, that was a different 'breed' of Republicans.
Funny we were having a talk about Eisenhower when he was POTUS at dinner tonight. Still one of the most admired Presidents ever.

Shame that someone like him would be called a RHINO or a communist now by the Trump party.