The Social Media Unemployment Line

Oct 2010
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#31
Smokers are not a protected class. H Ross Perot never hired smokers at EDS. Think about it, why would you want to hire someone that has such a filthy habit? Someone that makes such poor decisions with their own life? And now, since the ACA imposes a surcharge upon smokers it is easy to determine who smokes.
All it would take for any reasonable employer to kick your ass to the curb would be a few minutes looking at your posts here on PH. Your filthy habits of abusing the welfare system and putting down those who apply for welfare benefits speak VOLUMES about your character (or lack thereof).

 

Southern Dad

Former Staff
Feb 2015
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#32
All it would take for any reasonable employer to kick your ass to the curb would be a few minutes looking at your posts here on PH. Your filthy habits of abusing the welfare system and putting down those who apply for welfare benefits speak VOLUMES about your character (or lack thereof).
At my level it costs more to fire me, than to just wait out my retirement. It may not be a golden parachute but it's at least a bronze. Another funny thing is that you assume that the board of directors who are all hardworking individuals like welfare.
 
Feb 2011
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#33
At my level it costs more to fire me, than to just wait out my retirement. It may not be a golden parachute but it's at least a bronze. Another funny thing is that you assume that the board of directors who are all hardworking individuals like welfare.
I have some experience with these parachute provisions encouraging bad leadership. My opinion. It's one thing to help smooth the risks of moving around to different leadership positions, and another to load the severance incentives so heavily that leaders want to get fired. When that's the case, the only ones who benefit are bad leaders.
 
Jun 2006
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#34
So... what about if I post on social media under an assumed name?

Serious question.

Can my employer hold 'Dr. Gently' (Or his fantasy hockey champion alias, or his kid's youtube account) to the same standards as... me?

That's the reason I don't use my real name online. Because I like my job.
 
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Southern Dad

Former Staff
Feb 2015
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#35
I have some experience with these parachute provisions encouraging bad leadership. My opinion. It's one thing to help smooth the risks of moving around to different leadership positions, and another to load the severance incentives so heavily that leaders want to get fired. When that's the case, the only ones who benefit are bad leaders.
Yes, that can happen. I'm sure you aren't making any guesses about my leadership abilities or motivation because I'll tell you now, I'm pretty damn good at what I do. Are there times that I have to make hard decisions? You bet, it comes with the job. Steam Heat was throwing out his reasons why an employer wouldn't be happy with my positions here at Political Hotwire. Things like how I feel about freeloaders. That's no secret. I'm pretty sure anyone who has known me more than a few months knows that. I am quick to reward hard work and going beyond expectations. I'm not one that believes last place gets a trophy.

His remark was in response to a comment about smokers that I posted. Does anyone here think that smokers are smart people who make good decisions? The side of the package basically warns you this crap may kill you. The cost alone should be a deterrent. Yet, people continue to light up. Now, even Obamacare slaps a surcharge on those that smoke and it's to a small hit. People who are addicted to cigarettes are weak. These are simply facts. Just as is the fact that H Ross Perot never hired smokers when he owned and ran EDS. That was in the 70's.
 

Southern Dad

Former Staff
Feb 2015
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#36
So... what about if I post on social media under an assumed name?

Serious question.

Can my employer hold 'Dr. Gently' (Or his fantasy hockey champion alias, or his kid's youtube account) to the same standards as... me?

That's the reason I don't use my real name online. Because I like my job.
I think as long as you keep your social media presence and your work presence separate, you shouldn't have a problem. I believe the issue comes in when someone has a Facebook and they fill out all the boxes, including employer. Many Twitter accounts that I follow have text that says that the opinions are their own and not the employer.
 
Feb 2011
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#37
Yes, that can happen. I'm sure you aren't making any guesses about my leadership abilities or motivation because I'll tell you now, I'm pretty damn good at what I do.
Haha, no I'm not speaking about it you personally.

But why SHOULD it be more expensive to fire you than let you stay put? A really good leader that's really confident in his/her leadership abilities and qualities should see no need to set up generous parachute provisions. I mean fairly generous moving expense provisions ($5-$10k) and 1-3 months' pay, reasonable. Millions and millions, with the looming threat of "wrongful termination" lawsuits waged by executive nomads who do this to every small-to-medium enterprise they can schmooze into hiring them? No thanks. I have met smooth operators, wheelers and dealers, straight up narcissist douchebags that are straight up destroyers of organizations. Generous golden parachute provisions signal weakness and corruption.
 

Southern Dad

Former Staff
Feb 2015
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Shady Dale, Georgia
#38
Haha, no I'm not speaking about it you personally.

But why SHOULD it be more expensive to fire you than let you stay put? A really good leader that's really confident in his/her leadership abilities and qualities should see no need to set up generous parachute provisions. I mean fairly generous moving expense provisions ($5-$10k) and 1-3 months' pay, reasonable. Millions and millions, with the looming threat of "wrongful termination" lawsuits waged by executive nomads who do this to every small-to-medium enterprise they can schmooze into hiring them? No thanks. I have met smooth operators, wheelers and dealers, straight up narcissist douchebags that are straight up destroyers of organizations. Generous golden parachute provisions signal weakness and corruption.
Things change when you invest in the company.
 

johnflesh

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#39
Believing an employer should be free to decide whether or not they want to continue employing someone after they post something publicly is not the same as believing employers should control anything a person does while not on the job.
The control comes from the probability that action will be taken - and that fact alone is being argued. And with a whole thread of examples, it's common sense to common sense folks that action will be taken. Where there is a threat of action, there is control.