These are not accidents. These are mistakes.

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Words matter. Calling police shootings of innocent people accidents, removes responsibility from those that caused the bad shooting.

Colorado officer who shot and killed armed Vietnam vet won't be charged, DA says

In the incident involving Black, Limbaugh made a "split-second decision based upon his assessment of the circumstances surrounding the scene," the prosecutor wrote in his 26-page letter, which details 911 dispatch audio, police body-camera video and witness interviews to account for its conclusion.

Footage from Limbaugh's body camera was the "most critical" piece of evidence in the decision, Young wrote in a letter that identified Limbaugh as the officer who fired the fatal shots during the encounter. Limbaugh joined the department in 2015, he wrote.

The police department on Monday released two body-camera videos of the shooting, both showing the moments before Limbaugh shot Black. Officers thought Black was an intruder, police have said, and opened fire after he didn't follow a command to drop the gun he was holding. Officials later learned Black had been protecting his family from an invader.
We need to hold police officers accountable for their mistakes. Innocents will keep being killed until we do.
 
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Or you need to teach people to obey Police Commands.

Duh.

Why the fuck didn't he drop the gun when the police asked him too?
How long did he have from the moment he was issued a command to the moment he was shot to death?

From OP:
In the incident involving Black, Limbaugh made a "split-second decision based upon his assessment of the circumstances surrounding the scene," the prosecutor wrote in his 26-page letter
If a person doesn't know when cops will arrive, when he starts hearing orders for the first time, he doesn't immediately know who is issuing those orders. He also may not even hear them well the first time. Especially considering the man is 70 years old and hopped up on adrenalin because he is actively protecting his family from a home invasion robbery. The police need to do better.
 
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How long did he have from the moment he was issued a command to the moment he was shot to death?

From OP:


If a person doesn't know when cops will arrive, when he starts hearing orders for the first time, he doesn't immediately know who is issuing those orders. He also may not even hear them well the first time. Especially considering the man is 70 years old and hopped up on adrenalin because he is actively protecting his family from a home invasion robbery. The police need to do better.
I guess he didn't know that those loud sirens meant the police were there.

lol

Your cop hate is duly noted.
 
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Words matter. Calling police shootings of innocent people accidents, removes responsibility from those that caused the bad shooting.

Colorado officer who shot and killed armed Vietnam vet won't be charged, DA says



We need to hold police officers accountable for their mistakes. Innocents will keep being killed until we do.
When reading the details of this particular case, the decision to not pursue charges seems like the correct one. It was a horrible event all the way around but am not seeing improper or careless procedure on the part of the police officer.

But do agree with your distinction between "accident" and "mistake" in situations like these. The cop did not accidentally shoot Black. The action was intentional.




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And a study that should shock no body

Police killings are cutting short the lives of more people of color, researchers reported Monday.

While just over half of people killed by police are white, Hispanics and African-Americans are on average younger, the researchers found. And people of black, Hispanic and Native American background are disproportionately killed by police, they reported.

“Police violence disproportionately impacts young people, and the young people affected are disproportionately people of color,” Anthony Bui of the David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles and colleagues wrote.

The lives of people of color are more likely to be cut short by police
 
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From your link:

The case is the second fatal shooting of an armed civilian this summer in which Limbaugh has been cleared, Young's letter states.

The officer had returned to duty two weeks before he shot Black after an administrative leave following the death in June of a man who "pointed a handgun at Officer Limbaugh and attempted to fire it, but was unable due to a weapon malfunction," the letter states.

Limbaugh underwent a psychological assessment, counseling and "firearms qualification" before returning to duty, Young wrote.


I'm having a hard time believing this was just an unfortunate coincidence.
 
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Lawyer: Man charged in mall shooting didn't start the melee
Within seconds of the first shot, an officer fatally wounded Bradford after seeing him at the scene with a weapon, authorities have said. Police at first blamed Bradford for the shooting but then backtracked and arrested Brown near Atlanta last week after a manhunt.
Bradford died of three gunshot wounds to the back of his head, neck and torso, according to a forensic report commissioned by his family. Authorities have said an unnamed officer shot him after seeing a gun, which relatives say Bradford had a permit to carry legally.
So this one was shot in the back, seconds after the first shots were fired. How exactly was he supposed to know that there was a police officer behind him, so he better lay his gun down?
 
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