Trolling in the age of the internet and politics.....

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Please discuss your views and please add information found, regarding trolling on the internet, specifically as a means to influence politics in this nation, by foreigners and domestic trolls.

The objective, in other words, was not to put the blame on any concrete political opponent. The interest was not in finding an actual assassin. The logic was to imbue the discussions with such contradiction and filth that any bona fide user felt disillusioned and despondent. This flooding effect deters the audience from taking anything seriously.

Vitally, neutrollization plays on citizens’ own critical faculties by first drawing them in and then confusing them. It is not about merely pulling the wool over their eyes, and it has little to do with coercion or silencing. Instead, it exploits and twists the idea of self-expression and citizenry action in a way that leads to withdrawal from politics.

The following is from an interesting article on trolling....

"Unlike the more common forms of propaganda – which see mass media encouraging support for the political system – neutrollization encourages cynicism. All the while trolls preserve the semblance of sincerity and authenticity by following instructions. They cannot be “convinced” as their task is to implode any meaningful conversation."

"This position makes it near impossible to blow a whistle on a troll. But exposing trolls as professionals of nihilism is insufficient anyway. They are but precarious labour in a powerful political strategy."

"Neutrollization isn’t limited to within Russia’s borders. It is increasing internationally, too. The deployment of bots to disrupt political dialogue is just one example of the spillover. And while this does not have the same power as an operation backed by the trolled nation’s own government, this strategy can wreak havoc."

We researched Russian trolls and figured out exactly how they neutralise certain news


How often might any one of us be encountering foreign or domestic bots or trolls when we visit any of the types of websites listed in the article?

Is NOT feeding the trolls, the best way to approach those suspected of being trolls or bots? Assuming trolls and bots are programmed as computers of paid human beings, nothing will change their positions and attempts to disrupt confuse and spread lies and misinformation, but is it not worthwhile to keep vigilant and show how trolls and bots are spreading misinformation and lies?
 
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Pro-Kremlin trolls generate a stupefying noise through internet activism which seems to originate from citizens. They spread various conspiratorial theories and create a quasi-political, yet completely hollow, public space with a multitude of diverse but prefabricated opinions that jam the web.



Not going to mention any names, but whoa!

That does sound familiar.
 
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Please discuss your views and please add information found, regarding trolling on the internet, specifically as a means to influence politics in this nation, by foreigners and domestic trolls.

The objective, in other words, was not to put the blame on any concrete political opponent. The interest was not in finding an actual assassin. The logic was to imbue the discussions with such contradiction and filth that any bona fide user felt disillusioned and despondent. This flooding effect deters the audience from taking anything seriously.

Vitally, neutrollization plays on citizens’ own critical faculties by first drawing them in and then confusing them. It is not about merely pulling the wool over their eyes, and it has little to do with coercion or silencing. Instead, it exploits and twists the idea of self-expression and citizenry action in a way that leads to withdrawal from politics.

The following is from an interesting article on trolling....

"Unlike the more common forms of propaganda – which see mass media encouraging support for the political system – neutrollization encourages cynicism. All the while trolls preserve the semblance of sincerity and authenticity by following instructions. They cannot be “convinced” as their task is to implode any meaningful conversation."

"This position makes it near impossible to blow a whistle on a troll. But exposing trolls as professionals of nihilism is insufficient anyway. They are but precarious labour in a powerful political strategy."

"Neutrollization isn’t limited to within Russia’s borders. It is increasing internationally, too. The deployment of bots to disrupt political dialogue is just one example of the spillover. And while this does not have the same power as an operation backed by the trolled nation’s own government, this strategy can wreak havoc."

We researched Russian trolls and figured out exactly how they neutralise certain news


How often might any one of us be encountering foreign or domestic bots or trolls when we visit any of the types of websites listed in the article?

Is NOT feeding the trolls, the best way to approach those suspected of being trolls or bots? Assuming trolls and bots are programmed as computers of paid human beings, nothing will change their positions and attempts to disrupt confuse and spread lies and misinformation, but is it not worthwhile to keep vigilant and show how trolls and bots are spreading misinformation and lies?
I've tried a few things to act as "Turing tests" to see if the suspected bots can interpret the message.

So far, I have a list of 4 that have utterly failed multiple tests of interpretation beyond what a bot could be programmed to read and respond to.
 
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And especially this:

"The objective, in other words, was not to put the blame on any concrete political opponent. The interest was not in finding an actual assassin. The logic was to imbue the discussions with such contradiction and filth that any bona fide user felt disillusioned and despondent. This flooding effect deters the audience from taking anything seriously. "

All that's missing is "the tireless repetition of the same regurgitated nonsense" and we would have had Bingo.
 
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Do we feed the trolls or simply try to make sure their misinformation is not picked up and believed by the unsuspecting and those targeted by them for the purposes of exploiting the ignorant and the strictly partisan, to divide America?
 
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Misinformation should be addressed with facts not censorship.

Depends, IMO.

If it's a lame attempt to spread propaganda or just BS, then yeah, I agree.

If it's obvious attention-whoring douchebaggery or moronic bomb-throwing, starvation is way to go.
 
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Misinformation should be addressed with facts not censorship.
I agree. It takes some work, including a lot of repetitive work, since the SOSO is repeatedly brought up, by the same people (trolls/machines or humans).

If it's obvious attention-whoring douchebaggery or moronic bomb-throwing, starvation is way to go.
I agree here, also. Hard to not take the flame baiting bait at times.......but WE CAN DO IT! :cool:
 
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