Trump Admin purges 200,000 VA healthcare applications

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Another broken promise.


"Trump’s strong condemnation of the Obama administration’s handling of the backlog of hundreds of thousands of veteran benefits claims made him the overwhelming choice for many veteran voters in 2016.

But after two years in the White House, the Trump administration has decided to execute a plan to purge 200,000 applications for VA healthcare caused by known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment process and enrollment system — problems that had already been documented by the Office of the Inspector General in 2015 and 2017.

In purging this massive backlog of applications, the VA is declaring the applications to be incomplete due to errors by the applicants, despite the OIG findings and in violation of the promise Trump made to fix the system. This purge has the dual effect of letting the VA avoid the work of processing the applications and absolving the agency of any responsibility for veterans’ delayed access to health and disability benefits."

VA purges - Washington Examiner
 
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As is so often the case ... another Republican who does not care about veterans.
Honestly, I don't have historical knowledge of Republicans working against the VA, unless you count privatizing. Then again, R's would privatize the rain if let to their own devices, so at least that's on brand.

As for Trump, this f'd up manuever is a giant slap in the face to those who have served and sacrificed, and that ain't right.
Yes, there have been problems with the VA forever -- including under Obama -- but not being able to keep up with demand efficiently is one thing; trying to make it so the stats fit a narrative by denying care to eligible vets is quite another. What a sh!tbag.

All Americans ought to be outraged. This shouldn't be a partisan food fight -- which is why I sourced a conservative publication.
 
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Here's a thought. Why don't we simply sign vets up for free access to Obamacare ?? Cover them with the same insurance millions of other Americans are currently using and enjoying ? The only difference would be, vets, unless they were extremely high income earners, would be exempt from the income limitations. Why make them travel to VA hospitals when they could easily access the care they need in their own homes towns from local doctors and other medical service providers.

OOOHHHH wait, I know why. That would imply the Obamacre ACTUALLY works !! No self respecting member of the GOP would EVER admit that !!
 
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Here's a thought. Why don't we simply sign vets up for free access to Obamacare ?? Cover them with the same insurance millions of other Americans are currently using and enjoying ? The only difference would be, vets, unless they were extremely high income earners, would be exempt from the income limitations. Why make them travel to VA hospitals when they could easily access the care they need in their own homes towns from local doctors and other medical service providers.

OOOHHHH wait, I know why. That would imply the Obamacre ACTUALLY works !! No self respecting member of the GOP would EVER admit that !!
Bubba, did I welcome you to the board?

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Here's a thought. Why don't we simply sign vets up for free access to Obamacare ?? Cover them with the same insurance millions of other Americans are currently using and enjoying ? The only difference would be, vets, unless they were extremely high income earners, would be exempt from the income limitations. Why make them travel to VA hospitals when they could easily access the care they need in their own homes towns from local doctors and other medical service providers.

OOOHHHH wait, I know why. That would imply the Obamacre ACTUALLY works !! No self respecting member of the GOP would EVER admit that !!
I know you mean well, but that's a horrible idea. I love the VA's system. My husband uses VA health care. While it can be inconvenient sometimes to get to the hospital, it's about 50 miles from our home, (a clinic where he sees his primary is much closer), everything is coordinated and all of his records are in one place. For example, at his last visit with his primary, the doctor wanted to order his regular blood tests and noticed that my husband has a regular appointment with the pulmonary department and they will want to see his latest blood tests and so scheduled the test just before that appointment.

Also, all of his caregivers can see what tests he's had and the results as well as what meds he's on by just bringing up his records. When he was being taken care of by private doctors there was no coordination. He'd go to one doctor one month and they'd order blood work and then another doctor the next month and they'd order the same blood test even though he'd just had that done. And the different specialists don't coordinate or communicate with each other as they do with the VA.

We talked to the primary about the program the VA has for vets to see private doctors if the wait time is too long or if the VA clinic or hospital is too far away and he advised against it for all the reasons I stated above. It's no skin off that doctor's back if we were to go to a private doctor. He gets paid the same either way. So he's not being biased. He's just being practical.

But most people don't really know how the VA works. It has its problems sometimes, but so does private health care and health insurance. Overall, they've taken very good care of my husband.

But anyway, this purging of applicants just seems like rather than admit and deal with a problem they'll just ignore it. Could you imagine the scandal this would be under Obama or any other Democratic president? And as Ian pointed out, Republicans don't actually give a shit about veterans.
 
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I know you mean well, but that's a horrible idea. I love the VA's system. My husband uses VA health care. While it can be inconvenient sometimes to get to the hospital, it's about 50 miles from our home, (a clinic where he sees his primary is much closer), everything is coordinated and all of his records are in one place. For example, at his last visit with his primary, the doctor wanted to order his regular blood tests and noticed that my husband has a regular appointment with the pulmonary department and they will want to see his latest blood tests and so scheduled the test just before that appointment.

Also, all of his caregivers can see what tests he's had and the results as well as what meds he's on by just bringing up his records. When he was being taken care of by private doctors there was no coordination. He'd go to one doctor one month and they'd order blood work and then another doctor the next month and they'd order the same blood test even though he'd just had that done. And the different specialists don't coordinate or communicate with each other as they do with the VA.

We talked to the primary about the program the VA has for vets to see private doctors if the wait time is too long or if the VA clinic or hospital is too far away and he advised against it for all the reasons I stated above. It's no skin off that doctor's back if we were to go to a private doctor. He gets paid the same either way. So he's not being biased. He's just being practical.

But most people don't really know how the VA works. It has its problems sometimes, but so does private health care and health insurance. Overall, they've taken very good care of my husband.

But anyway, this purging of applicants just seems like rather than admit and deal with a problem they'll just ignore it. Could you imagine the scandal this would be under Obama or any other Democratic president? And as Ian pointed out, Republicans don't actually give a shit about veterans.
We have a VA hospital. Had some problems with Doctors, but I have yet to hear a Vet complain.

We also have Wright Pat. Many Vets settled here for that reason.
 
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Here's a thought. Why don't we simply sign vets up for free access to Obamacare ?? Cover them with the same insurance millions of other Americans are currently using and enjoying ? The only difference would be, vets, unless they were extremely high income earners, would be exempt from the income limitations. Why make them travel to VA hospitals when they could easily access the care they need in their own homes towns from local doctors and other medical service providers.

OOOHHHH wait, I know why. That would imply the Obamacre ACTUALLY works !! No self respecting member of the GOP would EVER admit that !!
Actually, that's the fake hold-up here with the applications. There's a means test -- ala signing up for Obamacare. Trouble is, combat vets are supposed to be automatically eligible but their apps are being purged along with the non-combat vets. No doubt many vets are on an ACA plan but they are supposed to be provided care by the VA as part of the terms of their service to the country.

I get what you're saying tho.