Trump involved Pence in efforts to pressure Ukraine’s leader

Libertine

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What are you talking about? Biden and other countries put pressure on Ukraine to stop corruption.

You what is corruption? Withholding military aid unless you agree to help promote a nutter theory.
Trump asked that Ukraine investigate and stop corruption on the call, Trump didn't tie aid to the request.

Biden asked that the prosecutor investigating his son's company be fired, else aid would be pulled.
 

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Trump asked that Ukraine investigate and stop corruption on the call, Trump didn't tie aid to the request.

Biden asked that the prosecutor investigating his son's company be fired, else aid would be pulled.
What part of this don' t you "get"? - which I already posted.

Trump denied that he had linked military aid to Ukraine with a commitment by Kyiv to investigate the 2016 presidential election when pressed on the matter by a Republican senator in August, according to the lawmaker.

In an interview, Sen. Ron Johnson (R., Wis.) said he learned of a potential quid pro quo from the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, who told him that aid to Ukraine was tied to the desire by Mr. Trump and his allies to have Kyiv undertake investigations that the president has sought.


Or this

Trump personally ordered his staff to freeze more than $391 million in aid to Ukraine in the days before he pressed the new Ukrainian president to investigate the Democrats’ leading presidential candidate, two senior administration officials said Monday.

Mr. Trump issued his directive to Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, who conveyed it through the budget office to the Pentagon and the State Department, which were told only that the administration was looking at whether the spending was necessary, the officials said.



Biden never asked the prosecutor to do anything. Have no idea where you are getting that from.

Again, the Ukraine government said neither Biden did anything illegal.
 
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There is no legitimate action to warrant impeachment.
Abuse of power=Trump=impeachment.

The GOP is even trying to silence the bipartisan agency, FEC, from trying to point it out . They have purposely kept from getting 1 more member that would allow them to hold meetings, start audits and create new rules or impose fines on those who violate campaign finance laws.


What is Trump and the GOP afraid of if what Trump is doing isn't illegal? The commission is made up of six members, who are appointed by the president of there United States and confirmed by the United States Senate.
 
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What part of this don' t you "get"? - which I already posted.

Trump denied that he had linked military aid to Ukraine with a commitment by Kyiv to investigate the 2016 presidential election when pressed on the matter by a Republican senator in August, according to the lawmaker.

In an interview, Sen. Ron Johnson (R., Wis.) said he learned of a potential quid pro quo from the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, who told him that aid to Ukraine was tied to the desire by Mr. Trump and his allies to have Kyiv undertake investigations that the president has sought.


Or this

Trump personally ordered his staff to freeze more than $391 million in aid to Ukraine in the days before he pressed the new Ukrainian president to investigate the Democrats’ leading presidential candidate, two senior administration officials said Monday.

Mr. Trump issued his directive to Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, who conveyed it through the budget office to the Pentagon and the State Department, which were told only that the administration was looking at whether the spending was necessary, the officials said.



Biden never asked the prosecutor to do anything. Have no idea where you are getting that from.

Again, the Ukraine government said neither Biden did anything illegal.
Sure you do:

 
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Are you actually going to post something on the actual topic for a change??
Do you think that if Biden committed a possible crime, it should be investigated, and because it was in another country, ask that country to investigate?

Let's switch it, from Biden to Trump. It's alleged there was some dodgy dealings by Trump in Ukraine. Would you ask the Ukrainian government to investigate.

Can I guess that you say no to investigate Biden but yes to investigate Trump!!

Seems to be a repeating pattern on your part, am I right?
 
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Trump asked that Ukraine investigate and stop corruption on the call, Trump didn't tie aid to the request.

Biden asked that the prosecutor investigating his son's company be fired, else aid would be pulled.
STOP asking questions you have already been given the information for in other threads. The truth doesn't change.

When the Ukraine president had just asked about buying tank destroying weapons to protect themselves from Russia
Trump says:
"I would like you to do us a favour though," Trump asked President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, according to the official account released on Wednesday.
He only mentions Crowdstrike and Biden's and wants them investigated which are directly relate to his 2016 campaign and his upcoming 2020 campaign.Why wouldn't Trump have other information about corruption in Ukraine and just things related to his
political campaigns?


Nobody but the fool tries to sooth the king while he blindly rages against the wind that holds the truth that will blow him away.
 
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Trump asked that Ukraine investigate and stop corruption on the call, Trump didn't tie aid to the request.

Biden asked that the prosecutor investigating his son's company be fired, else aid would be pulled.
Proven FACTS. The words are right there to read.