Trump Retreats. No Census Question On 2020 Ballot.

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Definitely a more efficient and cost saving if it was put in the census. SC had no objection to the the question in the census, it was the commerce dept that did not give a adequate reason for it. And can't blame Trump for the asshole judges.
Nope. We are already paying government agencies to collect that information. Why do you want us to pay twice for it.
Once more, the census has nothing to do with citizenship.
 
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Sure it is a win as it will be factored into the census.
Why ignore facts? This has already been discussed and facts brought forth to you. The Census that all people respond to has NOT included the question about citizenship since 1950, but other forms of the Census have (see long and short forms) included the citizenship question, but they go to only segments of the population, not all of it.

This controversy about the question is about it being asked of all people, not just a segment of the population, thus there is essentially no change in the citizenship question when it comes to being asked.

It is no such "win" as you wish it to be, because nothing has changed, with regard to that question being asked of the whole population.

The justices DID have a problem with the question, BECAUSE it did NOT give an adequate reason to ask it of the whole population. The reason given was to sure up the VRA (Voting Rights Act), but being a U.S. citizen is a requirement to be eligible to vote in every state I have looked at, so what would the question have to do with voting? The more people there are in a state or district, the more representatives in the House they get, but, only those who are U.S. Citizens in those states and districts get to vote.
 
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Why ignore facts? This has already been discussed and facts brought forth to you. The Census that all people respond to has NOT included the question about citizenship since 1950, but other forms of the Census have (see long and short forms) included the citizenship question, but they go to only segments of the population, not all of it.

This controversy about the question is about it being asked of all people, not just a segment of the population, thus there is essentially no change in the citizenship question when it comes to being asked.

It is no such "win" as you wish it to be, because nothing has changed, with regard to that question being asked of the whole population.

The justices DID have a problem with the question, BECAUSE it did NOT give an adequate reason to ask it of the whole population. The reason given was to sure up the VRA (Voting Rights Act), but being a U.S. citizen is a requirement to be eligible to vote in every state I have looked at, so what would the question have to do with voting? The more people there are in a state or district, the more representatives in the House they get, but, only those who are U.S. Citizens in those states and districts get to vote.

Of course, you're right, but Trumpsters simply don't do nuance.
 
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Nope. We are already paying government agencies to collect that information. Why do you want us to pay twice for it.
Once more, the census has nothing to do with citizenship.
So does the census have the right to know your income, do you own or rent your home, are you in a relationship, etc. etc, but you cannot ask a simple question are you a US citizen? And yes the government agencies will comply with feeding this information to the commerce department. And most Americans have no problem with the question other than lefty loons.