Trump sides with Democrats to raise debt limit and fund government for 3 months

Dec 2015
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In Your Heart!
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It looks good for a change to see Trump sitting comfortably with Democrats. Of course it has some Republicans fuming but so be it as they can't always win. This just goes to show the power of the Democrats in matters that matter where Trump is seeking their suggestions and to buddy-up with them on important legislation.







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Trump sides with Democrats to raise debt limit and fund government for 3 months - ABC News
By BENJAMIN SIEGEL and Mary Bruce

"President Donald Trump has agreed to support a three-month extension of the debt ceiling and government funding through Dec. 15, siding with congressional Democratic leaders over his own party and setting up another fight over must-pass fiscal legislation later this year."
"We had a very good meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer," Trump told reporters on Air Force One after the meeting. "We agreed to a three-month extension on debt ceiling, which they consider to be sacred -- very important -- always we’ll agree on debt ceiling automatically because of the importance of it."
 
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Singularity

Former Staff
Oct 2009
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He didn't just side with the Democrats, he heard each side's initial proposal, with both intending to negotiate to somewhere in the middle, neither expecting to get everything on their dream list.

Mnuchin was reportedly moving to start things in that direction when Trump cut him off and gave the Democrats 100 percent of their initial ask. Forging a deal is a matter of give and take, he just bent over for them so the board is clear for tax reform --- but he has so deeply alienated the Freedom Caucus and its contemporaries with this, he will now start that debate off on the wrong foot. More importantly, Republicans will have to explain two unpopular votes to hike the debt ceiling before the primary campaign begins in earnest, when leadership sought to keep it to one.

There's a lot of bad blood between the grassroots GOP and Trump over this. They have quietly feared that, as an ex-Democrat, he would be fundamentally comfortable with something like this if put in a tough spot. They didn't expect him to sell them down the river.
 
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Mar 2012
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New Hampshire
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Trump was good friends with Chuck Schumer and the news claims he is far more comfortable with him than McConnell and Ryan. They supposedly get along quite well being New Yorkers. There was concern about this from the GOP during primaries saying he would agree to single payer and pro choice funding over the cries of conservatives.
 
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Apr 2012
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Englewood,Ohio
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Trump was good friends with Chuck Schumer and the news claims he is far more comfortable with him than McConnell and Ryan. They supposedly get along quite well being New Yorkers. There was concern about this from the GOP during primaries saying he would agree to single payer and pro choice funding over the cries of conservatives.
Why is that surprising? Mitch and his AH ways were not working.
 
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Massachusetts
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It looks good for a change to see Trump sitting comfortably with Democrats. Of course it has some Republicans fuming but so be it as they can't always win. This just goes to show the power of the Democrats in matters that matter where Trump is seeking their suggestions and to buddy-up with them on important legislation.







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Trump sides with Democrats to raise debt limit and fund government for 3 months - ABC News
By BENJAMIN SIEGEL and Mary Bruce
Hey, what do you know -- I finally seem to be online here!
 
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Nov 2013
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None of your business
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Why is that surprising? Mitch and his AH ways were not working.
The more I think about the DACA mess, I am coming to the conclusion that that was a knife point that trump pointed at the GOP's throat.

The DREAM act had bipartisan support until Marco got cold cojones and pulled out.

And Obama was clear; if Congress wouldn't do their job, he would and he would do his job at the same time, so I would argue that Congress' pay for the past four years should be clawed back.
 

Singularity

Former Staff
Oct 2009
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Trump was good friends with Chuck Schumer and the news claims he is far more comfortable with him than McConnell and Ryan. They supposedly get along quite well being New Yorkers. There was concern about this from the GOP during primaries saying he would agree to single payer and pro choice funding over the cries of conservatives.
The problem is, he has done so much damage with progressives that it's doubtful he can win much support from them, and there are not enough Democratic defectors in the Upper Midwest to compensate for the loss of the traditional conservative base. And if he follows this course for long, he will lose them, the right-wing media are lighting him up for this, really for the first time.
 
Mar 2012
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New Hampshire
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The problem is, he has done so much damage with progressives that it's doubtful he can win much support from them, and there are not enough Democratic defectors in the Upper Midwest to compensate for the loss of the traditional conservative base. And if he follows this course for long, he will lose them, the right-wing media are lighting him up for this, really for the first time.
Wasn't this what many GOPers feared? He would cozy up to some moderate dems to get what he wanted? Yesterday he was up there with Sen Heitlkamp talking tax reform. Both Trump and Heitlkamp were getting hammered on social media for standing up with the "enemy." Wondering if this has more to do with Bannon being gone and not in his ear? CNN was saying he is "back to the old Trump days" a decade or so ago and less for the right wing.
 

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