Trump's trade war and farmers

May 2012
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By the wall
#31
Laughable. Our ALLIES have many of the exact same complaints about the Chinese that we have. Quite sensibly, Obama was working WITH our allies to put very strong pressure on the Chinese to alter their ways. In sharp contrast, Donald Trump has been waging trade wars against our ALLIES, almost as much as the Chinese.

Once again, we see that in your worldview, America simply doesn't NEED any allies, and can make our way in the world all alone.

Your views amount to an almost Paleolithic isolationism.
After 30 years of getting them to alter their ways has failed it's time for a new approach.

You had your chance and it doesn't work.

The people are rising up....go back to England already.
 
Jan 2016
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Colorado
#33
After 30 years of getting them to alter their ways has failed it's time for a new approach.

You had your chance and it doesn't work.

The people are rising up....go back to England already.
LOLOL, my ancestors came from Scotland and Ireland. They didn't care a whole helluva lot for the bloody English.

The Scots might just decide to break away from the United Kingdom, especially in the wake of a catastrophic no-deal BREXIT. And this whole issue is threatening to turn Ireland into an ugly situation once again, as it was not too many decades ago.

Obviously, we DIDN'T try the TPP, because we never joined it.
 
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Sep 2014
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South FL
#34
The way to 'stand up to them', as I have repeatedly explained, would have been for America to join the anti-China trade agreement known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Doing so would have put IMMENSE pressure on China to change its ways, and to stop many or most of its unfair trading practices.
The US joining TPP does not compel China to adhere to WTO.
 
Jan 2016
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Colorado
#36
The US joining TPP does not compel China to adhere to WTO.
Did I say it would? But exerting pressure on China with a 12-nation coalition or trading bloc is going to put a LOT more pressure on the Chinese to modify their policies and behavior, than the pressure from one nation alone.

Is there some reason you don't 'follow' that logic?
 
Jan 2016
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Colorado
#37
The "great" negotiator Trump blinked on his latest Chinese tariff threat.
:cool:


WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States is delaying tariffs on Chinese-made cellphones, laptop computers and other items and removing other Chinese imports from its target list altogether in a move that triggered a rally on Wall Street.
The real reason why Trump has postponed the tariffs is almost surely political. Someone must have told him, and convinced him, that it would be a Scrooge-like or Grinch-like Christmas season, if the tariffs had gone into effect on September 1st. And it would! Because prices for MANY of the 'toys' Americans like to buy for Christmas would have been soaring in places like WalMart and Target, Home Depot and Lowe's, Macy's and Kohl's, and etc.

Postponing the tariffs until mid-December removes the risk of damaging the Christmas spirits of American voters, since all the Chinese goods flowing into the U.S. would have already arrived on our shores by December 15th. In fact, this may lead to a SURGE in imports from China over the next few months, as American stores try to stock up for the busy Christmas shopping season.