U.K. Victim of Child Porn Kills Abuser

Jun 2014
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"Barbara Coombes Sentenced to Nine Years For Murder of Her Father", the Guardian, July 2018.

(Can't link, but that is the title of the news report.)

Barbara Coombes killed her father, Kenneth, after more than 40 years of horrific sex abuse that included using her as a model for child pornographers.

Convicted of manslaughter with dimished responsibility, the judge gave Coombes a prison sentence that, to my eye, looks as if it would be harsh for a British first degree murder conviction.

I don't often complain British justice is too harsh. It's normally a much, much more lenient system than ours, IMO.

But that's what makes this case discussion-worthy to me.

So, what say you? Was Coombes' sentence too harsh?

IMO, she should have gotten time served and been released.

Your thoughts?
 
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"Barbara Coombes Sentenced to Nine Years For Murder of Her Father", the Guardian, July 2018.

(Can't link, but that is the title of the news report.)

Barbara Coombes killed her father, Kenneth, after more than 40 years of horrific sex abuse that included using her as a model for child pornographers.

Convicted of manslaughter with dimished responsibility, the judge gave Coombes a prison sentence that, to my eye, looks as if it would be harsh for a British first degree murder conviction.

I don't often complain British justice is too harsh. It's normally a much, much more lenient system than ours, IMO.

But that's what makes this case discussion-worthy to me.

So, what say you? Was Coombes' sentence too harsh?

IMO, she should have gotten time served and been released.

Your thoughts?
Was it proven she was abused so badly?
 
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Jun 2014
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Here's a link to the story: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...an-killed-father-shovel-child-porn/782713002/

And an excerpt:

Her father Kenneth was in the lounge when she confronted him with her spade.

In two strikes — one in the back of the head and another to slashing his throat — Coombes killed him. She then wrapped his body in a rug and brought him outside where she had been working.

A day later, Coombes bought a ton of soil to bury him in the backyard. Police said she told her family that Kenneth had died in the hospital and was cremated to explain his sudden demise.

But for 12 years, Coombes' lived in the dead man's house, collected his welfare benefits and used his money, police said. Overall, Coombes racked up 180,000 pounds, or nearly $238,000, in fraudulent benefits.

Coombes also lied about her father's whereabouts to welfare officers because she could never produce official records of his death, the Guardian reported. At one point, she claimed he was away on a Buddhist retreat when housing officers asked.

Then in January this year, a welfare officer demanded to see her father, who would have been 99, at a scheduled meeting. Coombes, knowing she had no other ways out of the visit, turned herself into police a day before the meeting.

I think that she'd have likely received some sympathy in court for admitting to a passionate act of violence in killing her father under those circumstances, but she lied and fraudulently collected his benefits for years rather than confessing to the killing.
 
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Jun 2014
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because going vigilante is illegal.
Okay. That's a valid point.

But he was 87 at his death. No risk he would harm her or any other child again, I wouldn't think. So, strictly speaking, you disapprove of revenge as a partial defense.

And me, on facts like these, I think it should have been a complete defense. Or at worst, adjudication withheld, so that if she is law-abiding the rest of her life, she does no time.
 
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