Unvaccinated Oregon Boy Contracts Tetanus, Spends Two Months In Hospital For Over $800K In Medical Treatments

Oct 2014
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You've known me on this forum for a while; you know I'm willing to examine data. Could you share a link with data suggesting that the tetanus vaccination carries more risk than other vaccinations?
Experience suggests otherwise. Not really important though since I didn't say carries more risk, but more the list of side effects for tetanus is more severe. Earlier versions of the vaccine had been (not sure about now) tainted with sv40 for example.
 

Djinn

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Experience suggests otherwise. Not really important though since I didn't say carries more risk, but more the list of side effects for tetanus is more severe. Earlier versions of the vaccine had been (not sure about now) tainted with sv40 for example.
The sv40 contamination issue (which affected polio vaccines, not tetanus vaccines) happened over fifty years ago. What severe side effects are unique to the tetanus vaccination, and not other vaccinations?
 
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The sv40 contamination issue (which affected polio vaccines, not tetanus vaccines) happened over fifty years ago. What severe side effects are unique to the tetanus vaccination, and not other vaccinations?
Oh, that's right, the cancer virus was mainly found in polio vaccines. Now the biggest problem with the polio vaccine is giving people polio.

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?pi=400-10&image_type=product_pdf

You can let me know which vaccines have more significant side effects.
 
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Pox virus can be vaccinated against.

Chickenpox | Prevention and Treatment | Varicella | CDC

Chicken pox is not riskfree; in the mucus membranes, it can blind or deafen a child. It never leaves the body, and can cause cold sores and shingles. (Which are now also occurring in people of any age, not just oldies.)

Chickenpox | Complications | Varicella | CDC

In rare cases, chicken pox can be lethal.
I'm old and I don't have kids. We had to get chicken pox the old fashioned way. Actually I never got them. Brother did before I was born. I'm told it could kill me getting it as an adult. Can I still haz vaccine? I'm celebrating my 28th birthday (again, I won't say how many times) soon.
 
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As far as I know, doctors cannot yet say what autism IS, although they seem certain that it's neurological in impact.

If I was planning a family now, or had littles in my care, they'd all be eating a plant-based diet of organic food. No diary or eggs, unless organic.

We have done something appalling to our environment in the last 50+ years that is damaging our littles most severely. Look at the rise in potentially fatal food allergies, the falling age of puberty, and the proliferation of psychiatric illnesses and learning disabilities in our kids.
We were brought up on home made food, none of these ready made meals or takeaways. The highlight of the month was getting fish n' chips from the chippy, even then, I used to get the battered pineapple fritter.

Allergies etc.. all down to the chemical ridden modern day food.

As for psychiatric illnesses, those people achieve jobs as politicians.
 
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A pregnant woman does not, by being pregnant, pass on contagious diseases to others the way an unvaccinated person can. Having an abortion is not irresponsible, except in the eyes of misogynists who want to keep oppression of women alive and well. OTOH, people who refuse to get vaccinated for preventable diseases and who get sick (and in the case of contagious diseases, pass them on to others, are being grossly irresponsible.

There’s no comparison between a pregnant woman and a parent who refuses to vaccinate his/her kids.
I didn't say they did.
 
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Pox virus can be vaccinated against.

Chickenpox | Prevention and Treatment | Varicella | CDC

Chicken pox is not riskfree; in the mucus membranes, it can blind or deafen a child. It never leaves the body, and can cause cold sores and shingles. (Which are now also occurring in people of any age, not just oldies.)

Chickenpox | Complications | Varicella | CDC

In rare cases, chicken pox can be lethal.
Hey, just think, imagine there was a vaccination against stupidness. Socialism would die out!! Now there's a thought.
 
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Pox virus can be vaccinated against.

Chickenpox | Prevention and Treatment | Varicella | CDC

Chicken pox is not riskfree; in the mucus membranes, it can blind or deafen a child. It never leaves the body, and can cause cold sores and shingles. (Which are now also occurring in people of any age, not just oldies.)

Chickenpox | Complications | Varicella | CDC

In rare cases, chicken pox can be lethal.
I once spoke to a young mom I know about why she and her friends have pox parties. She and her friends are big greenies. All natural, organic types. They dont feed their kids sugar, GMOs or anything like that. They dont use fertilizers in their gardens. No indoor cleaners like Windex, Pledge etc either. They feel we have too many toxins in the Earth and they dont want their kids to be as exposed to it. Their reasoning is vaccines are full of toxins (preservatives etc not the virus themselves) and prefer their kids to get diseases the natural way. That way they have protection for life. I always find this an odd thing today as young parents are the most educated (several of these women had PhDs) yet they are like this. Its a big disconnect. My husband thinks its because they are so well educated and fairly well off. They feel its no big deal if their kids get sick because they are insured. If they were poor, that likely wouldnt be the case. Chicken pox means 7-10 days off from school, poor parents cant afford to take that kind of time off from work. So they get vaccinated.
 

Ian Jeffrey

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Nobody seems to feel guilty if they send their infected kid to school, and apparently pox parties are back in vogue.
South Park did a whole episode on this. When the doctor found out from the parents what they'd been doing, he said, "wow, you suck."
 

Ian Jeffrey

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I had chicken pox when I was ... yeah, either first or second grade. I still have a faint scar on my nose from one of the blisters. The vaccine wasn't available for another 20-odd years.
I had chickenpox twice ... could really have used that vaccine. It was licensed in the U.S. in '95, I think, some 20+ years after I had it.
 

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