Was it right to drop two atomic bombs on Japan?

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WW2 makes less and less sense the more you look at it.

Any attempt to look at it objectively reveals everyone involved to be utter fools. No different than WW1 - with the added lunacy of the previous slaughter still being in living memory.

Country A B and C attack and occupy overseas colonies. Local resistance is killed and imprisoned. Military rule is established. Unparalleled economic benefits are reaped. Country D wants a piece and takes a few of the colonies away. Making the colonies their own. For their own economic benefit. Local resistance is killed and imprisoned. Military rule is established. A B and C ally to take their overseas colonies back from D.

Trying to paint this as a war of good vs evil would be laughable to anyone who wasn't fed the line from birth
 
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Here's a quick summary of issues:

Debate over the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia

And a video for our French and/or German speaking members:

Hiroshima, la véritable histoire | ARTE

You may find this documentary by Lucy Van Beek in English under the title Hiroshima: The Aftermath
A terrible and tragic decision to have to make. However, I do believe that it saved more lives, on both sides, than it took. Having to physically invade Japan would have resulted in a million casualties or more.
 

johnflesh

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No it wasn't right. But it proved effective.

We know it wasn't right because we haven't done it since.
 
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A terrible and tragic decision to have to make. However, I do believe that it saved more lives, on both sides, than it took. Having to physically invade Japan would have resulted in a million casualties or more.
You are correct.

Horrible decision to have to make, but the right decision.

Saved a million or more causalities, and most of them would have been Japanese.

Definitely the right call.

Thanks Truman!
 

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The conventional wisdom is that Japan surrendered over the atomic bombs, but the reality is that it took a combination of the atomic bombs, the Soviet entry into the war, the defeat at Okinawa and the proven strategic ineffectiveness of the kamikaze campaign, and multiple rounds of firebombing which altogether destroyed much more and killed more people than the atomic bombs. All of these elements were required to get Japan to surrender, and it is not clear whether Japan would've thrown in the towel without them or not.

What is clear is that had the U.S. attempted to invade the home islands, at least 1 million U.S. casualties and countless millions more of Japanese would have been sustained, and while the U.S. was prepared to fight it out, if it had gotten that bad it's not inconceivable that the public's patience for the war would've run out.

That being said, a demonstration of the atomic bomb's power on a non-civilian target, might have been sufficient with all of the other elements to get Japan to throw in the towel. We will never know. It is very much a matter of hindsight judgment. The U.S.' determination to end the war in its favor at any cost certainly is not something we can fairly judge in hindsight. It was an extraordinary moment in history, and by dropping the bombs in the way they did and showing the horrific costs of their usage, they may have helped ensure nobody goes down that road again. We hope.
 
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A terrible and tragic decision to have to make. However, I do believe that it saved more lives, on both sides, than it took. Having to physically invade Japan would have resulted in a million casualties or more.
But why was there a need to invade Japan? Why wasn't their surrender an option?

Wouldn't them just surrendering save more lives? If that's the goal?

It's a false dichotomy.
 
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Yes.

Those nukes saved American lives.

And the USA' s job is to protect it's citizens from more Japanese attacks.
No one ever attacked the US. Did someone attack the US?

Japan attacked overseas colonies of western powers. Colonies that had been taken by bloody force.

Can you name the three simultaneous attacks that day? Pearl harbour was one of three. There were three attacks. Can you name the other two?

Ask yourself why not.
 
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