White House Counsel Pat Cipollone's Letter to Speaker Pelosi

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You aren't capable of discussing it either.

And, we all know it.
Sounds like you are about as informed on this topic as your dear leader is

Meaning, you don't know anything about it all at.


The first paragraph of WH letter says Pelosi has labeled the investigation an impeachment inquiry "contrary to the Constitution." The Constitution doesn't mention an "impeachment inquiry." It does vest in the House both the power of impeachment and the power to make its rules for starters.
 
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Sounds like you are about as informed on this topic as your dear leader is

Meaning, you don't know anything about it all at.


The first paragraph of WH letter says Pelosi has labeled the investigation an impeachment inquiry "contrary to the Constitution." The Constitution doesn't mention an "impeachment inquiry." It does vest in the House both the power of impeachment and the power to make its rules for starters.
He doesn't say the Constitution mentions an impeachment inquiry.

Try reading it again.

But, it is pretty impressive that you actually made an attempt to comment on the topic without parroting the fake news MSM.
 

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I have only posted about a dozen of them in comments #2 through #7.

Pick one ... any one ... if you are interested in discussing it.
An impeachment isn’t a criminal trial, therefore the “rights of the accused” being asserted aren’t really relevent here, are they?

His only punishment at the end of this is to lose his job, per the constitution.
 
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An impeachment isn’t a criminal trial, therefore the “rights of the accused” being asserted aren’t really relevent here, are they?

His only punishment at the end of this is to lose his job, per the constitution.
The Democrats will NEVER Impeach the President outside the Constituion by denying the President due processes that are laid out in the letter and in the comments I quoted in the beginning of the thread.

If you think that is going to happen then you are not living in reality.
 

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The Democrats will NEVER Impeach the President outside the Constituion by denying the President due processes that are laid out in the letter and in the comments I quoted in the beginning of the thread.

If you think that is going to happen then you are not living in reality.
Yeah, but per the constitution, it isn’t itself a criminal trial. No impeachment is.

What’s this business about impeaching “outside the constitution”?
 
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In addition, the House has not provided the Committees' Ranking Members with the authority to issue subpoenas. The right of the minority to issue subpoenas-subject to the same rules as the majority-has been the standard, bipartisan practice in all recent resolutions authorizing presidential impeachment inquiries. 11 The House's failure to provide co-equal subpoena power in this case ensures that any inquiry will be nothing more than a one-sided effort by House Democrats to gather information favorable to their views and to selectively release it as only they determine. The House's utter disregard for the established procedural safeguards followed in past impeachment inquiries shows that the current proceedings are nothing more than an unconstitutional exercise in political theater.
They are using the same rules on subpoenas that the GOP put in place when they had the majority, sucks to be in the minority, doesn't it?

But the House rules have changed since the last impeachment of a president more than two decades ago. In this Congress, the House majority already has unilateral subpoena power, a rule change that was made when Republicans last controlled the House, so Democrats don't need to pass any resolution to grant those powers.
 
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Yeah, but per the constitution, it isn’t itself a criminal trial. No impeachment is.

What’s this business about impeaching “outside the constitution”?
I refuse to read the letter for you.

White House Counsel Pat Cipollones explains it in detail and gives historic context.

You cannot impeach a sitting US President and NOT give them the ability to defend themselves against the Impeachment charges.
 
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Does anyone in their right mind think the Democrats will actually Impeach the President on something that an anonymous person said about a phone call that contradicts the actual transcript of the phone call without holding an Official Impeachment Inquiry Vote

Without giving the President's legal team Due Process

Without giving the President access to evidence

Without giving the President's Legal Team subpoena power

Without the right to confront the witnesses against him

Without the Right to call his own witnesses

Without the Right to have the assistance of counsel

That is exactly what White House Counsel Pat Cipollone states in his letter to Pelosi he also gones on to say:

Worse, the Committees have broadly threatened that if State Department officials attempt to insist upon the right for the Department to have an agency lawyer present at depositions to protect legitimate Executive Branch confidentiality interests-or apparently if they make any effort to protect those confidentiality interests at all-these officials will have their salaries withheld. 13

No one in their Right mind believe this will ever happen without launching this Great Nation in to another Civil War.