White House plans to spurn Democrats' request for documents in impeachment inquiry

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No. My question remains unanswered: where does it say that a vote by the full House is REQUIRED before beginning an impeachment inquiry? If you’re going to argue precedent, then there is precedent for no initial vote for an “inquiry.” There appears not to have been one before the impeachment of Andrew Johnson.
 
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No. My question remains unanswered: where does it say that a vote by the full House is REQUIRED before beginning an impeachment inquiry? If you’re going to argue precedent, then there is precedent for no initial vote for an “inquiry.” There appears not to have been one before the impeachment of Andrew Johnson.
Actually you've had this answered a couple different ways but you don't like the answers so you just sort of repeat yourself.

No a full House vote is not required for an impeachment inquiry but an impeachment inquiry is not the same as an impeachment proceedings.

Here are the points you keep wanting to ignore....

1. The last two attempts at impeachment or actual impeachment proceedings were proceeded not my a lot of investigative work by Congress but by reports generated by Special Prosecutors.

2. While claiming these committees are engaged in an impeachment inquiry, there doesn't seem to be any actual hearings, motions, actions or anything else undertaken by said committees except for letters generated by committee chairpersons without votes, input or anything else being done by the actual committees in question.

3. The legal rationales within the letter written by the committee chairpersons read as... with rule changes we've conflated an impeachment inquiry and an impeachment proceedings and have awarded ourselves the powers that would normally being reserved for the executive branch but will be used only the legislative branch only in this extraordinary case of seeking removal of someone in the executive branch as an ordinary everyday action. Thus we don't need to take a vote to initiate that extraordinary action because we've declared we get to do this all the time now.

But hey....ignore those points and just keep repeating yourself. Especially ignore the last one which seems to ignore that the executive branch is responsible for execution and enforcement of the laws. Ignore the fact that no court in the land will find for the House when they declare they get to be the executive branch all the time and for any reason they desire... because they made a rule and said so!
 
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Nixon tried that same shit and SCOTUS forced him to comply with the information requested, Trump will have to do the same. A President cant hide the info that convicts him in an impeachment from Congress.
 
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Actually you've had this answered a couple different ways but you don't like the answers so you just sort of repeat yourself.

No a full House vote is not required for an impeachment inquiry but an impeachment inquiry is not the same as an impeachment proceedings.

Here are the points you keep wanting to ignore....

1. The last two attempts at impeachment or actual impeachment proceedings were proceeded not my a lot of investigative work by Congress but by reports generated by Special Prosecutors.

2. While claiming these committees are engaged in an impeachment inquiry, there doesn't seem to be any actual hearings, motions, actions or anything else undertaken by said committees except for letters generated by committee chairpersons without votes, input or anything else being done by the actual committees in question.

3. The legal rationales within the letter written by the committee chairpersons read as... with rule changes we've conflated an impeachment inquiry and an impeachment proceedings and have awarded ourselves the powers that would normally being reserved for the executive branch but will be used only the legislative branch only in this extraordinary case of seeking removal of someone in the executive branch as an ordinary everyday action. Thus we don't need to take a vote to initiate that extraordinary action because we've declared we get to do this all the time now.

But hey....ignore those points and just keep repeating yourself. Especially ignore the last one which seems to ignore that the executive branch is responsible for execution and enforcement of the laws. Ignore the fact that no court in the land will find for the House when they declare they get to be the executive branch all the time and for any reason they desire... because they made a rule and said so!
Those points, such as they are, still beg the question whether a vote by the full House is REQUIRED BEFORE the HOUSE conducts an impeachment inquiry. Nobody has proven that it is, even though trump worshipers are still claiming it.
 
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Nixon tried that same shit and SCOTUS forced him to comply with the information requested, Trump will have to do the same. A President cant hide the info that convicts him in an impeachment from Congress.
And one of the articles of impeachment drawn up on Nixon, which ended up not being voted on because of his resignation, was contempt of Congress, for not turning over subpoenaed documents.
 
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And one of the articles of impeachment drawn up on Nixon, which ended up not being voted on because of his resignation, was contempt of Congress, for not turning over subpoenaed documents.
Now Trump just called for Nancy Pelosi's impeachment, he has gone nuts.
 
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Now Trump just called for Nancy Pelosi's impeachment, he has gone nuts.
I guess nobody’s told him that members of Congress can be expelled, not “impeached.” And she hasn’t done anything to warrant that, except in his deluded mind.