Why would Hiring a company who used a foreign agent who used Russian agents to dig up dirt on a candidate not be collusion?

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Why would Hiring a company who used a foreign agent who used Russian agents to dig up dirt on a candidate not be collusion? We all heard trumps comments on accepting information from a foriegn sources and that correctly doesn't sit right with people.

But that begs the question.....

Why would Hiring a company who used a foreign agent who used Russian agents to dig up dirt on a candidate not be collusion?
 
Sep 2013
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Why would Hiring a company who used a foreign agent who used Russian agents to dig up dirt on a candidate not be collusion? We all heard trumps comments on accepting information from a foriegn sources and that correctly doesn't sit right with people.

But that begs the question.....

Why would Hiring a company who used a foreign agent who used Russian agents to dig up dirt on a candidate not be collusion?
The difference is paying an American company to do opposition research vs a foreign government offering dirt.

Fusion GPS
is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C. The company conducts open-source investigations and provides research and strategic advice for businesses, law firms and investors, as well as for political inquiries, such as opposition research.[1] The "GPS" initialism is derived from "Global research, Political analysis, Strategic insight".[2]

Fusion GPS - Wikipedia
 
Sep 2013
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But if you know that company is using foreign agents to dig up dirt, how is that not collusion?
Why would the client know an American company that does opposition research is using foreign agents?

Again, it is the client buying a service from a company that openly provides that service. It is a free market transaction.

The trump Tower meeting was sought by enemy agents. They were offering dirt, and we can only guess at the price they wanted in return. If you dont know whats wrong with that, I doubt I can make it clear.

(Its clear you didnt read the information provided at the link)
 
Oct 2014
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But if you know that company is using foreign agents to dig up dirt, how is that not collusion?
Well, first you'd have to know the company was using foreign agents.

Second, if the company is outsourcing to a foreign company owned by a retired civil servant in a country that already shares intel with the USA, what/who exactly are they supposed to be colluding with? Even if Christopher Steele was a high-ranking government official - which he wasn't - or even claiming to be representing his government - which he wasn't - he was living in the United Kingdom, which was at the time one of the US's closest allies. I understand that Russia is now the US's best friend, but that wasn't the case in 2016.

If you have any info that the Clinton campaign was dealing with someone claiming to be an emissary from a hostile government offering help to the campaign, feel free to share. Otherwise you're just trying to peddle a false equivalence.
 
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And then there's the little wrinkle that Christopher Steele was so alarmed by the information he was getting from his Russian sources that he went to the FBI himself. Basically the sort of thing that Trump said yesterday that he wouldn't do.
 
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We're living in the information age. It's silly to try to micromanage where every bit of info comes from, who received it, what value it had, whether or not it was used nefariously, etc...
The voters at the end of the trail will decide for themselves what to believe and whether or not it makes a difference to them.
 
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We're living in the information age. It's silly to try to micromanage where every bit of info comes from, who received it, what value it had, whether or not it was used nefariously, etc...
The voters at the end of the trail will decide for themselves what to believe and whether or not it makes a difference to them.
Great, another Trump supporter who does not care about our National Security

I thought the former GOP party was all about "law and order"?