Will Bill Gates be forced out of Microsoft?

johnflesh

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This is an ongoing issue over there and this isn't the first time it's come up. The investors hold little sway but have gaping mouths when it comes to opinion about MS's direction.

The word is that these investors want to take MS and Windows in general the way of MacOS where it's very strictly proprietary which can place limits on development. Read: Adobe Flash.

I don't think there is a problem in doing this as long as MS still supports current versions of their OS, such as Windows 7. Because, if they do take the OS a more proprietary route, their sales will drop and those investors will be in the same position that they are placing Bill... looking at being ousted for their disconnected decisions - which is their current accusation. Developers will not go for this and believe it or not, we hold a bigger silent share of the decision making process. Look at Windows 8.1's release that rolls out here in the next month. That alone shows the level of sway users and developers have.
 
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There was a comment made by the CEO of Salesforce that these investors are echoing as if it is the end-all statement and death of desktop computing.

Salesforce.com's Marc Benioff On Innovation, Acquisitions And Reinvention - Forbes

This guy brought serious ire to himself when he made these statements such as "end of software" and "everything is going mobile" so essentially screw desktop users.
But the ire comes not from the developer's inability to embrace mobile computing, but our inability to develop for mobile directly on mobile devices.
Last time we checked, coding software DIRECTLY on a iPhone was near god-damn impossible. And where it is possible, try writing 1000's of lines of code using your thumbs...

His presentation was alright, but wasn't all that well thought out. I believe he backtracked on that quite a bit after, but the stain took.
 
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There was a comment made by the CEO of Salesforce that these investors are echoing as if it is the end-all statement and death of desktop computing.

Salesforce.com's Marc Benioff On Innovation, Acquisitions And Reinvention - Forbes

This guy brought serious ire to himself when he made these statements such as "end of software" and "everything is going mobile" so essentially screw desktop users.
But the ire comes not from the developer's inability to embrace mobile computing, but our inability to develop for mobile directly on mobile devices.
Last time we checked, coding software DIRECTLY on a iPhone was near god-damn impossible. And where it is possible, try writing 1000's of lines of code using your thumbs...

His presentation was alright, but wasn't all that well thought out. I believe he backtracked on that quite a bit after, but the stain took.
Yea every software developer or serious gamer I know uses a desktop. None of them use tablets or other devices. Even most laptops are somewhat limited unless you get high up with the Alienware or expensive MSI.
 
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Yea every software developer or serious gamer I know uses a desktop. None of them use tablets or other devices. Even most laptops are somewhat limited unless you get high up with the Alienware or expensive MSI.
Indeed. Mac and PC alike are used widely for development for everything from mobile surfaces to XBOX and Playstation. Both systems are the easiest route to creating these applications through programs like Unity3D (gaming) and VisualBasic (C++ and C#) as well as HTML, JS and CSS editors (among other extensions) with programs like Dreamweaver. None of those companies who build those applications intend on making a mobile version of their software. They'd run like pure shit.

They have however opened the door wide open to exporting or developing for mobile, XBOX, etc etc etc. And they've done a great job.
For instance Dreamweaver - through that program alone I can build everything from ASP and .NET web apps to phone apps and even sprite based video games. Coding those on a touch screen would be hell. It's possible but not practical by any means.
 
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Indeed. Mac and PC alike are used widely for development for everything from mobile surfaces to XBOX and Playstation. Both systems are the easiest route to creating these applications through programs like Unity3D (gaming) and VisualBasic (C++ and C#) as well as HTML, JS and CSS editors (among other extensions) with programs like Dreamweaver. None of those companies who build those applications intend on making a mobile version of their software. They'd run like pure shit.

They have however opened the door wide open to exporting or developing for mobile, XBOX, etc etc etc. And they've done a great job.
For instance Dreamweaver - through that program alone I can build everything from ASP and .NET web apps to phone apps and even sprite based video games. Coding those on a touch screen would be hell. It's possible but not practical by any means.
These investors are also forgetting a couple of other things that are going to keep PCs, and thus Windows around for a long time. Seniors and kids.

Seniors don't much like change. And while some may appreciate the ability to use their smart phone or pad as a gps/map system in their car, or be able to read news stories in a waiting room somewhere, most drop that pad, and pick up their PC's keyboard when they get home. It's simply easier to send emails, or do office work on their PCs than it is to use their pads or smart phones.

The kids on the other hand, use high end PCs or game consoles, because there isn't a smartphone or pad yet developed with the power to run a modern game without difficulty. And those games must be run on an OS of some kind. Windows or Apple's IOS anybody?