Will Trump finish his first term as president?

Will Trump finish his first term as president?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • No TV for a week

    Votes: 12 52.2%

  • Total voters
    23

Devil505

Former Staff
Jan 2008
69,620
28,183
Florida
#91
There's no chance of being impeached & removed from office that way, and before the bitter primary circular firing squad has even begun, the Democrat clown car doesn't seem to have much of a chance of beating Trump in 2020. However the Trump regime still hasn't released his full 2019 physical exam report; there is a decent chance the fat fuck drops dead in the next year as he continues to shovel in McDonald's Big Macs, buckets of KFC, and Diet Coke on the verge of turning 73.
Trump will be indicted and prosecuted.
No law or COTUS wording prevents that.

Keep this treason away from politics.
 
Sep 2007
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4
#92
Trump will be indicted and prosecuted.
No law or COTUS wording prevents that.

Keep this treason away from politics.
LOL okay that's not going to happen-but whatever helps you sleep at night!

Good luck getting all the freshman Democrat House Members from swingy Trump districts to vote for impeachment!

And if by some miracle you get the House to vote for impeachment, you're going to need a LOT more luck to get a Senate with a 53-45 Republican majority to vote 2/3 to convict & remove Donald Trump from office for high crimes & misdemeanors! ....Which will NEVER EVER happen-which those Democrat House Members from Trump districts (at least those with a modicum of political savvy) KNOW, therefore they are not going to sacrifice their own seats pushing forth on a pointless symbolic quixotic quest to make the Clinton "Resistance" feel all warm & fuzzy inside with an impeachment kabuki theatre performance that will only strengthen Trump, as it did Bill Clinton.

If Democrats can't beat Trump at the ballot box in 2020, then better be prepared for another 5 years of Donald Trump in the White House, unless he happens to drop dead before 2025!
 

Devil505

Former Staff
Jan 2008
69,620
28,183
Florida
#94
LOL okay that's not going to happen-but whatever helps you sleep at night!

Good luck getting all the freshman Democrat House Members from swingy Trump districts to vote for impeachment!

And if by some miracle you get the House to vote for impeachment, you're going to need a LOT more luck to get a Senate with a 53-45 Republican majority to vote 2/3 to convict & remove Donald Trump from office for high crimes & misdemeanors! ....Which will NEVER EVER happen-which those Democrat House Members from Trump districts (at least those with a modicum of political savvy) KNOW, therefore they are not going to sacrifice their own seats pushing forth on a pointless symbolic quixotic quest to make the Clinton "Resistance" feel all warm & fuzzy inside with an impeachment kabuki theatre performance that will only strengthen Trump, as it did Bill Clinton.

If Democrats can't beat Trump at the ballot box in 2020, then better be prepared for another 5 years of Donald Trump in the White House, unless he happens to drop dead before 2025!
Justice will come from the courts, not the congress.
 
Likes: MaryAnne
Apr 2012
58,079
42,912
Englewood,Ohio
#96
I think his kids greatest risk is the NY AG over the Trump Foundation scam.
Trump has no ability to control NY nor would his pardon power apply to state convictions.

At this point he's a deadman walking and our country is in grave danger!!
Yes, and experts agree. The SDNY is the greatest danger for the whole Trump family.
 
Apr 2012
58,079
42,912
Englewood,Ohio
#97
You don't consider Episcopalians Christians? How about Lutherans and Methodists? All those denominations that have lots of Democrats in them? His politics of American Theocracy and regressive social policies are going to be attacked, no doubt. Are you thinking he is going to be a popular, charismatic, lightning rod of populism?

Pence on the issues:

  • Future of conservatism demands traditional marriage. (Feb 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation. (Nov 2007)
  • Voted YES on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)
  • Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
  • Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
  • Voted YES on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. (Sep 2004)
  • Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)
  • Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
  • Require "Privacy Impact Statement" on new federal rules. (Apr 2002)
  • Rated 7% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
  • Rated 0% by the HRC, indicating an anti-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
  • Rated 22% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
  • Amend Constitution to define traditional marriage. (Jun 2008)
Mike Pence on the Issues
Mike Pence, Wikipedia. Evangelical.

Mike Pence - Wikipedia
 

Babba

Former Staff
Jul 2007
74,402
64,386
So. Md.
#98
LOL okay that's not going to happen-but whatever helps you sleep at night!

Good luck getting all the freshman Democrat House Members from swingy Trump districts to vote for impeachment!

And if by some miracle you get the House to vote for impeachment, you're going to need a LOT more luck to get a Senate with a 53-45 Republican majority to vote 2/3 to convict & remove Donald Trump from office for high crimes & misdemeanors! ....Which will NEVER EVER happen-which those Democrat House Members from Trump districts (at least those with a modicum of political savvy) KNOW, therefore they are not going to sacrifice their own seats pushing forth on a pointless symbolic quixotic quest to make the Clinton "Resistance" feel all warm & fuzzy inside with an impeachment kabuki theatre performance that will only strengthen Trump, as it did Bill Clinton.

If Democrats can't beat Trump at the ballot box in 2020, then better be prepared for another 5 years of Donald Trump in the White House, unless he happens to drop dead before 2025!
Whether or not impeachment would be a quixotic quest depends on what we learn about the Trump campaign's contacts with the Russian government.

BTW, the public's attitude toward the Starr investigation and the Mueller investigation are very different. In 1998 61% of Americans thought Starr was merely out to hurt Clinton and only 35% thought he was just looking for the truth. Today, 57% think Mueller is working to find the truth and only 30% think he's just trying to hurt Trump. Most people know something fishy was and is going on with Trump and Putin. So, it wouldn't be taking that much of a risk for most Democratic members of the House to vote for impeachment. That's not to say that at this point I think it's going to happen, but we don't know what we could learn in the coming months.

Oh, and considering Trump's diet and lack of exercise it wouldn't surprise me at all if he just up and dropped dead today.
 
Likes: MaryAnne
Nov 2015
5,456
1,743
UK
#99
Whether or not impeachment would be a quixotic quest depends on what we learn about the Trump campaign's contacts with the Russian government.

BTW, the public's attitude toward the Starr investigation and the Mueller investigation are very different. In 1998 61% of Americans thought Starr was merely out to hurt Clinton and only 35% thought he was just looking for the truth. Today, 57% think Mueller is working to find the truth and only 30% think he's just trying to hurt Trump. Most people know something fishy was and is going on with Trump and Putin. So, it wouldn't be taking that much of a risk for most Democratic members of the House to vote for impeachment. That's not to say that at this point I think it's going to happen, but we don't know what we could learn in the coming months.

Oh, and considering Trump's diet and lack of exercise it wouldn't surprise me at all if he just up and dropped dead today.
It's obvious that Trump dealt with the Russians for business reasons but there was no collusion with the election. Obviously the Mueller investigation was to determine whether there was which looks like it's going to conclude there was none, as Trump said from day one and all it recovered was unrelated lying, money deals etc.. by lawyers etc..
 

Babba

Former Staff
Jul 2007
74,402
64,386
So. Md.
It's obvious that Trump dealt with the Russians for business reasons but there was no collusion with the election. Obviously the Mueller investigation was to determine whether there was which looks like it's going to conclude there was none, as Trump said from day one and all it recovered was unrelated lying, money deals etc.. by lawyers etc..
You have no way of knowing whether there was collusion or not. But this certainly is suspicious.

On Tuesday, when news broke that Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort had shared internal polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian business associate with ties to Russian intelligence, the through line between the campaign and the Kremlin began to look incontrovertible. The revelation came in an inadvertently unredacted court document, which was filed by Manafort’s lawyers in response to charges made by the special counsel, Robert Mueller, that Manafort had lied to investigators. According to the Times, some—but not all—of the data was already in the public domain. The rest came from the campaign’s own polling operation.
Why Would Paul Manafort Share Polling Data with Russia?

And it's just Trump's bad luck that he has surrounded himself with a bunch of crooks and liars, lol.