Will you watch Trump's SOTU speech tonight?

Will you watch Trump's SOTU speech tonight?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • No

    Votes: 14 70.0%

  • Total voters
    20
Apr 2015
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Katmandu
Yeah, that does NOT give you the same number of 304,000 new jobs that the Bureau of Labor Statistics just reported, does it, genius?

Take the January number of 156694, and subtract the December 2018 number of 156945, and what do you get?

NOT 304,000. In fact, according to YOUR preferred dataset, America LOST 251,000 jobs in January 2019!!

LOL!!
It's laughable that you don't understand this very basic data that the BLS collects and maintains. The data series on the top is the total number of jobs in America, the data series you are referring to omits jobs in the agricultural and all the millions of self employed people in America.

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Blueneck

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And what was trumps plan to reduce drug prices? Did he mention one? Or did he just say what everyone already knows with no plan or idea how to reduce it.
Same plan as always. His personal charm coupled with his ability to dazzle everyone into kissing his ass due to his fame and prestige will permit him to "grab the pussy" of his opponents and shake money out of them.

Thing is the Congress aren't his fans or people who are desperate to attain greater personal wealth or opportunity so it doesn't work. As a co-equal branch of government, they are beholden to their constituents and are not employees of the president. I really don't think he gets that at all.
 
Apr 2015
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Katmandu
President Trump’s State of the Union speech once again was chock-full of stretched facts and dubious figures. Many of these claims have been fact-checked repeatedly, yet the president persists in using them. Here, in the order in which he made them, are nearly 30 statements by the president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...s-state-union-address/?utm_term=.01220acb5dfe
Your fact checker isn't too keen on facts. Here he chastises for counting jobs from election day, messing with the dates. He then proceeds to cherry pick dates from Obama's record instead of starting at the beginning in order to make a misleading statement. In reality we lost manufacturing jobs under Obama. We had fewer manufacturing jobs when Obama left office than when he started.

"Trump often inflates the number of jobs created under his presidency by counting from Election Day, rather than when he took the oath of office. There have been almost 4.9 million jobs created since January 2017, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, of which 436,000 are manufacturing jobs, according to the BLS.


This is an impressive gain for almost two years; under President Barack Obama, about 900,000 manufacturing jobs were gained over seven years from the 2010 nadir after the Great Recession."

Blatant partisanship, not impartial fact checking.
 
Apr 2015
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Katmandu
President Trump’s State of the Union speech once again was chock-full of stretched facts and dubious figures. Many of these claims have been fact-checked repeatedly, yet the president persists in using them. Here, in the order in which he made them, are nearly 30 statements by the president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...s-state-union-address/?utm_term=.01220acb5dfe
Your fact checker is 0 for 2. Wages are higher than 2015 or 2016. Real wages rose 2.9% in 2018. Real wages take inflation into account and so his statement shows a lack of basic understanding.

"It’s worth noting that although real wage gains were higher in 2015 and 2016, that was a period of almost no inflation. So Trump can claim some credit for decent real wage growth now with inflation back at about 2 percent."

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“Nearly 5 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps.”


About 3.6 million people (not nearly 5 million) have stopped receiving food stamps since February 2017 (through Sept 2018)"


0-3 The fact checker didn't fact check Trump's actual statement, and then committed the same sin as Trump by not using the correct dates.

“Nearly 5 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps.”


About 3.6 million people (not nearly 5 million) have stopped receiving food stamps since February 2017 (through Sept 2018)"

“The U.S. economy is growing almost twice as fast today as when I took office, and we are considered far and away the hottest economy anywhere in the world — not even close.”


Trump accurately says the most recent numbers, showing 3.4 percent GDP growth in the third quarter of 2018, are roughly twice the 1.8 percent rate from his first quarter in office."



Fact checker is 0 for 4. Again he didn't fact check Trump's actual statement and then misrepresented the facts by using bogus dates and data.

GDP growth in 2016 was 1.5% and in 2018 it was over 3%.