Yet Another Arrest For "Thinking Bad Thoughts"

Jun 2014
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Cleveland, Ohio
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You most likely recall the NY case of the "cannibal cop", arrested, tried and convicted because he wrote a series of sexual fantasies about cannibalism (among other things) online.

Gilberto Valle III
(born April 14, 1984) is a former New York City police officer who was convicted by a jury in March 2013 of conspiracy to kidnap, before the judge in the case, Paul Gardephe, overturned the verdict 16 months later.[1] The circuit court later affirmed the acquittal in December 2015, but the prosecution's appeal could yet go to the Supreme Court.[2]

Valle was arrested after his wife discovered he was spending time in chat rooms describing detailed plans to abduct, torture, rape and cannibalize women; Valle claimed all scenarios he described were mere fantasy. The case drew widespread attention for its unusual nature — Valle was dubbed the "Cannibal Cop" — and because of the legal issue of whether describing criminal activities crosses the line into criminal intent.[3]


"Cannibal Cop" Case Overturned On Appeal

The basis for Valle's successful appeals was, simply, that he correctly asserted that nobody can be arrested in America for "thinking bad thoughts" or telling another adult that they do. (For the record, what Valle fantasized about would not have made my Top Ten List of things I wanted to do to my ex during our divorce. And I imagine I am fairly mild-mannered, as American adults go, at least as to our fantasies about sex and revenge.)

Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivey said Tuesday that the case is "one of the most sickening in my 39 years in law enforcement." Someone please buy a box of tissues for this man, who has been horribly traumatised by learning that the sexual fantasies of other men are sometimes a bit weird.

*SARCASM ALERT*

Jesus Fucking Christ!

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Ivey said agents arrested Alexander Barter, of Shelby County, Texas, on federal charges, including criminal solicitation and criminal attempt to commit capital murder.

Ivey said Barter posted an online ad that said, in part: "I'd like to try necrophilia and cannibalism and see what it's like to take a life."

Undercover agents talked to Barter and set up a meeting in Texas, where he was arrested.

Ivey said Barter had a knife and bags and was planning on carrying out his attack.

"This was not role playing or just talking online," Ivey said. "He said he wanted to rape, kill and cannibalize her. He said he lived in the woods and her body would never be found."

Ivey said in order to protect the investigation, he would not release the name of the site on which Barter posted the ad or the age of the child he thought he was meeting.

Ivey thanked his team, who worked with authorities in Texas, Homeland Security and the Border Patrol.

"They did an amazing job getting him off the streets," Ivey said. "There are monsters walking around among us, preying on our children each and every day."

Ivey said there's no indication that Barter has ever been successful in carrying out any similar attacks.

Barter is in federal custody in Texas.

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Feds & Florida Sheriff's Deputies Arrest Man In Texas For "Bad Thoughts"

These lazy asshole cops had a circlejerk and set up a Google alert for the word "cannibalism", then arrested some dim bulb in Texas for admitting online that he thinks bad thoughts. O, and he had "a knife and a bag", which they allege prove he intended to carry out his "plot". Against a "young girl" who nobody ever specified or targeted or even described as to the age of this "intended victim".

I have "a knife and a bag" in my house. Several, as it happens. I am not planning to act out Hansel & Gretel with real children, ever. It's proof of fuck all, IMO, and this poor bastard's life won't be worth living because these fuck-knuckles were too goddamned lazy to get off their asses and pursue some ACTUAL sexual criminals.

And cops wonder why so many members of the public react to them with hatred and disgust!

THIS is why. The power to arrest is a MASSIVE one, to be used with great care and discretion.. The public DESERVES that cops do not abuse it, and make only those arrests that follow an investigation into ACTUAL CRIMES, so we can all be safer.

I am sick and tired of men with limp dicks and stalled careers behaving like virgins at a frat party every time another lull in the news cycle incites them to gin up some faux outrage over yet ANOTHER "new kind of sexual depravity".

There is no crime here, and these bastards should all be personally liable to this poor man for the horrors of having been arrested and imprisoned on these charges. And if this guy has been arraigned, then that federal judge and USDA need to resign, too. Hell, I want the relevant USDA fired, as no way this arrest ever happened without his or her approval in advance. (There are four U.S. Judicial Districts in Texas, and the news does not say which one was responsible for this baseless arrest.)

There is no crime here. Anyone who can't see that needs to have no further role to play in American criminal law, ever.

Angry. I am angry. Jesus Fucking Christ! You can't tell me cops do not watch porn on the internet or read the weird shit on sites like Literotica: Share, Read & Co-write Sexual Fantasies Online.

Goddamned hypocrites. Lazy mofos looking for cool points less than a week before the election, trying to make their careers on the back of an innocent man.

Your thoughts?
 
Jul 2011
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The overturn was correct. as nasty as it was, it was writing, and speech.

Now if he follows through, there will be prodigious evidence.
Why would any sane man want complete strangers to know he was that fucked up in the head? Maybe he should have been on a nice comfortable couch in a shrink's office talking about those thoughts.
 
Jun 2014
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Cleveland, Ohio
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Why would any sane man want complete strangers to know he was that fucked up in the head? Maybe he should have been on a nice comfortable couch in a shrink's office talking about those thoughts.

Lol. Guess, Daddio.

You'll figure it out.

*Winks*
 
Jun 2014
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Cleveland, Ohio
#5
The overturn was correct. as nasty as it was, it was writing, and speech.

Now if he follows through, there will be prodigious evidence.

I love this post. I want to buy a billboard and hang it up for these shitty cops to see, every day.

This is not Communist China! Nobody should need to fear arrest because they "think bad thoughts".
 
Jun 2014
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Cleveland, Ohio
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THINKING and WRITING mean two different things.
They do, but the STATE has the burden of proving the author INTENDED to recruit co-conspirators to carry out his devious plan, as opposed to laying out an elaborate fantasy. And the SCOTUS has ruled, merely PLOTTING online is not enough. The threat-maker must take at least ONE CONCRETE STEP to carry out the crime he described.

There is NO CRIME HERE.
 
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I'd agree he should not be prosecuted though I don't know if I would want to live next door to him, but I'd think that the application of "healthy" thought, mostly promulgated through psychiatric ideas and medical pharmaceuticals has permeated the social politics to the point where this will become common. Saw somewhere that the UK law will now be able to sentence animal abusers to 5 or 6 years in prison, which I'm not totally unsympathetic with, but compared to crimes against humans it seems out of scale, after all we slaughter millions of animals a year for food, an individual being cruel to animals is not as bad as the potential to be cruel to humans which would be the courts opinion of a thought crime that could become real in the future.
 
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The Man

Former Staff
Jul 2011
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As far as I am concerned, I don't want anyone "fantasizing" about such crap living next to me and my family. Fuck his rights... My wife and my children deserve to be safe.

WTF is wrong with you, Madeline???
 
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